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Telling students to copy ANYTHING is a violation of the "top down" rule.
Someone who is your boss (teacher, principal, etc.) cannot tell you to
make copies of anything. The teacher can put the material on reserve,
and tell the kids that they have to read the material before school
starts, then let the KIDS make the decision to copy or just sit there
and read. That wouldn't violate the law, and only the student would know
how much they copy on an unattended copier. The student would ultimately
be responsible for the violation, if there were one.
Why not just sell the books to the kids as soon as they come in?
Carol Simpson, Ed.D.
Asst. Professor - School of Library & Information Sciences
University of North Texas
PO Box 311068
Denton, TX 76203
940-565-3776 (voice)
940-565-3101 (fax)
csimpson@lis.admin.unt.edu
>>> Shonda L Brisco <bshonda@OKSTATE.EDU> 06/01/01 08:56AM >>>
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Would it be possible for the teacher to leave the book with you with the
chapter's marked and then allow you to place it in the library on
"reserve"? The teacher could then ask that the students go to the
library
to check out the book (perhaps on an hour loan) to photocopy the
chapters
needed themselves? Because they are the ones who are purchasing the
book,
they would only be receiving a copy of what they need to read before the
text arrives. It puts more responsibility on the student to get the
copies made, but the student is still responsible for reading the
material
even if the teacher gives it to them. This way, the student has the
burden on them--which is what they will have when they get to college.
Why
not "train" them now?
Just a thought.
Shonda Brisco
Assistant Professor / M.L.I.S. Librarian
Mary L. Williams Curriculum Materials Library
Oklahoma State University
Stillwater, Oklahoma
bshonda@okstate.edu
405-744-9769
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"Some jobs are like swimming ducks...most of the work is invisible to
others."
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<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">Would it be possible for the teacher
to leave the book with you with the chapter's marked and then allow you
to place it in the library on "reserve"? The teacher
could then ask that the students go to the library to check out the book
(perhaps on an hour loan) to photocopy the chapters needed themselves?
Because they are the ones who are purchasing the book, they would
only be receiving a copy of what they need to read before the text
arrives. It puts more responsibility on the student to get the
copies made, but the student is still responsible for reading the
material even if the teacher gives it to them. This way, the
student has the burden on them--which is what they will have when they
get to college. Why not "train" them now?</font>
<br>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">Just a thought.</font>
<br>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">Shonda Brisco<br>
Assistant Professor / M.L.I.S. Librarian<br>
<br>
Mary L. Williams Curriculum Materials Library<br>
Oklahoma State University<br>
Stillwater, Oklahoma<br>
bshonda@okstate.edu<br>
405-744-9769<br>
<br>
<br>
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"Some jobs are like swimming ducks...most of the work is invisible
to others."<br>
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<DIV>Telling students to copy ANYTHING is a violation of the "top down" rule.
Someone who is your boss (teacher, principal, etc.) cannot tell you to make
copies of anything. The teacher can put the material on reserve, and tell the
kids that they have to read the material before school starts, then let the KIDS
make the decision to copy or just sit there and read. That wouldn't violate the
law, and only the student would know how much they copy on an unattended copier.
The student would ultimately be responsible for the violation, if there were
one.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Why not just sell the books to the kids as soon as they come in?</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Carol Simpson, Ed.D.<BR>Asst. Professor - School of Library &
Information Sciences<BR>University of North Texas<BR>PO Box 311068<BR>Denton, TX
76203<BR>940-565-3776 (voice)<BR>940-565-3101 (fax)<BR><A
href="mailto:csimpson@lis.admin.unt.edu">csimpson@lis.admin.unt.edu</A></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><BR><BR>>>> Shonda L Brisco <bshonda@OKSTATE.EDU> 06/01/01
08:56AM >>><BR>This is a multipart message in MIME
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charset="us-ascii"<BR><BR>Would it be possible for the teacher to leave the book
with you with the<BR>chapter's marked and then allow you to place it in the
library on<BR>"reserve"? The teacher could then ask that the students go
to the library<BR>to check out the book (perhaps on an hour loan) to photocopy
the chapters<BR>needed themselves? Because they are the ones who are
purchasing the book,<BR>they would only be receiving a copy of what they need to
read before the<BR>text arrives. It puts more responsibility on the
student to get the<BR>copies made, but the student is still responsible for
reading the material<BR>even if the teacher gives it to them. This way,
the student has the<BR>burden on them--which is what they will have when they
get to college. Why<BR>not "train" them now?<BR><BR>Just a
thought.<BR><BR>Shonda Brisco<BR>Assistant Professor / M.L.I.S.
Librarian<BR><BR>Mary L. Williams Curriculum Materials Library<BR>Oklahoma State
University<BR>Stillwater,
Oklahoma<BR>bshonda@okstate.edu<BR>405-744-9769<BR><BR><BR>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~<BR>"Some
jobs are like swimming ducks...most of the work is invisible
to<BR>others."<BR><BR>--=_alternative 004C8BA386256A5E_=<BR>Content-Type:
text/html; charset="us-ascii"<BR><BR><BR><br><font size=2
face="sans-serif">Would it be possible for the teacher to leave the book with
you with the chapter's marked and then allow you to place it in the library on
&quot;reserve&quot;? &nbsp;The teacher could then ask that the
students go to the library to check out the book (perhaps on an hour loan) to
photocopy the chapters needed themselves? &nbsp;Because they are the ones
who are purchasing the book, they would only be receiving a copy of what they
need to read before the text arrives. &nbsp;It puts more responsibility on
the student to get the copies made, but the student is still responsible for
reading the material even if the teacher gives it to them. &nbsp;This way,
the student has the burden on them--which is what they will have when they get
to college. &nbsp;Why not &quot;train&quot; them
now?</font><BR><br><BR><br><font size=2
face="sans-serif">Just a
thought.</font><BR><br><BR><br><font size=2
face="sans-serif">Shonda Brisco<br><BR>Assistant Professor / M.L.I.S.
Librarian<br><BR><br><BR>Mary L. Williams Curriculum Materials
Library<br><BR>Oklahoma State University<br><BR>Stillwater,
Oklahoma<br><BR>bshonda@okstate.edu<br><BR>405-744-9769<br><BR><br><BR><br><BR>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~<br><BR>&quot;Some
jobs are like swimming ducks...most of the work is invisible to
others.&quot;<br><BR></font><BR>--=_alternative
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