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Thanks to all who reponded! Here is what people had to say: I love the writer Orson Scott Card's definition: he says, if it has rivets on the cover, it's science fiction; if it has trees on the cover, it's fantasy. It hardly every fails. GraceAnne DeCandido I've done many presentations for 4th and 5th graders on what makes a book Fantasy. Here are some elements that you could have them think about: Animal Fantasy: do the animals use speech? do they have human characteristics (homes, chairs/furniture, cook dinner, etc.)? A good animal fantasy will have a character that retains its natural animal characteristics (a rabbit will be a fast runner and frightened easily) but will otherwise behave in human terms. Personified toys or objects: Toy Story is the best example - are inanimate objects (in real life) animated in the story? Pinocchio, Mike Mulligan and the Steam Shovel, The Castle in the Attic are all examples of toys or machines that come to life or have feelings/personalities. Exaggerated reality: the fantasy element of the story is reached through an element of reality (Alice in Wonderland, James and the Giant Peach are two good examples). Tuck Everlasting by Babbitt is a good example of this - it is historically accurate in its portrayal of the characters and the time but the element of the "fountain of youth" exaggerates reality to explore a fantasy we've all thought about. Little People: are there characters in the story that are miniature people (The Borrowers, for example). Supernatural/Mystery fantasy: ghost stories; stories of witches, warlocks, and wizards (Harry Potter). Are there elements of the supernatural in the story? Are the characters trying to solve a mystery that seems to have supernatural connotations? Historical fantasy: you could also call this the time-warp or time-travel fantasy where characters, through some machine or mysterious portal, travel back in time. Most people think of traveling forward in time to fall into the science fiction category and I suppose there is an argument that if the time travel is accomplished by machine then regardless of when they travel to, it's science fiction. That's your call as to how you want to present it. (The Root Cellar, Time-Warp Trio series, Honus & Me) Quest stories: adventure stories with a search motif - usually looking for a magic talisman, love of a pure heart, hidden treasure or some such. They're usually serious in tone and sometimes known as high fantasy. Lloyd Alexander writes many of these; look also for the Merlin series by Barron, Wren series by Smith, and Anne McCaffrey's books about Pern. Science fiction/fantasy: a fantasy story based on real scientific facts and/or principles. Look for stories by William Sleator (Interstellar Pig) John Christopher (The White Mountain series), Heinlein (Have Spacesuit Will Travel). Much of this information I'm giving you came from Essentials of Children's Literature (2nd ed) by Carl Tomlinson and Carol Lynch-Brown (Allyn and Bacon, 1996). Hope this gets you started! Have fun! Susan K. S. Grigsby, LMS Virtual Reference Desk Volunteer Midvale Elementary, DeKalb County, Georgia skg0577@dcss.dekalb.k12.ga.us Those who don't understand aren't committed...those who do should be. I tell kids to ask themselves "Could this happen in the real world?" Do people fly through the air on broomsticks? Do animals talk to people in English? Do people travel through time? Do magic spells really work? By 5th grade, kids have a handle on what is real and what isn't, and can distinguish fantasy w/ pretty good reliability. Benita I posed this question to some of our 5-6 grade students with a mixed result on what is fantasy. For example, the Star Trek material has some validity now or War of the Worlds which was fantasy in 1938! Don't know if this helps or not as an approach. Imagination or fantasy has lent itself to a lot of our new inventions. Check out some of the stuff about George Lucas and Steven Spielberg. Carla Haney Shirland Cons. School In Literature and the Child, 5th edition, Galda and Cullinan, there is a teaching idea about distinguishing between Fantasy and Realism. "Choose two picture books--one realistic (it could possibly happen) and one fantasy (it could not happen). Read aloud both books; compare them on relevant points as in the example." here's the 2 books in the example. (I don't have time to type the whole chart!) Coy, John. Night Driving. Peter McCarty, illustrator. Holt, 1996 Raschka, Chris, The Blushful HIppopotamus. Jackson/ Orchard, 1996. They then compare the genre, characters, plot, setting, theme, and a few details.[Night Driving: Where did the drivers go? How did the boy help Dad? The Blushful Hoppopotamus: Are talking animals real or make-believe? What gave Roosevelt confidence?] These questions are at the bottom: How did you know which story was real, and which one was make-believe? Which pictures and sentences prove it? If you don't have this book, BUY IT!! Check your public library ISBN 0534246877 Linda Walkup Tulsa Public Schools walkuli@tulsaschools.org Everyone else who responded wanted a "hit" posted-- enjoy!!! =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-==-= All postings to LM_NET are protected under copyright law. To quit LM_NET (or set-reset NOMAIL or DIGEST, etc.) send email to: listserv@listserv.syr.edu In the message write EITHER: 1) SIGNOFF LM_NET 2) SET LM_NET NOMAIL or 3) SET LM_NET DIGEST 4) SET LM_NET MAIL * Please allow for confirmation from Listserv. 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