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I feel bad. First I take a long time to post this hit so many people requested and then I was so excited about finally being able to get to it that I forgot to say thank you in the first part. I got some truly wonderful ideas. I am looking forward to trying many of them out with the different classes I teach. Everyone was great to respond so quickly. This is the best resource. Thanks again for all the fantastic ideas. Kaline Goodrich Hermon Elem. & Middle School Librarian Hermon, ME What I'm using is several pages with examples of books, magazines, web sites, etc just written out so they can see what they should do. I always start this lesson with the sixth grade by giving them B's, 920's, encyclopedias and internet sites on Marian Anderson. In many sources, there are different birthdates for her. In one encyclopedia ther were 2 different dates. My point is that scholars need to track their information carefully to be sure of accuracy of information. Something wierd happened with Marian Anderson. Last year there was an artilce in the newsparer interviewing Marian's neice whi said that Aunt Marian felt it was rude to ask a lady her age and that when asked she lied. Hence the confusion. We talk about how a scholar would find the truth. Then we do the boring stuff. I'm new and I haven't tried this yet but the idea just occurred to me. It's a technique used to teach a variety of things, why not this!? Try breaking down the citation into its component parts and placing each on a different colored paper. The citation can then be assembled like a puzzle giving the students visual and tactile ways of doing it and hopefully remembering how to do it correctly. You could do it on the board in large print and each student could select their own pieces of paper to write in their own sources, ie. author, title, place, publisher, date. The complexity of the citation would vary by grade. I just recently did this lesson with our sixth grades. My goal wasn't to have them know how to do it from memory but to introduce them to it and let them know there is a right way to do onne and that they will have to do one for their project. I had decided too that I would loose them quick if I lectured on the way to do it. I broke it down into 2 lessons. First I made a sheet with the style and example of all the formats I wanted them to learn (book, magazine, internet, etc.). I made a copy for each student. I also made a poster of each format, one side had a sample and the other the word explanation (Author. Title....) . I placed 4 non-fiction books and 4 magazines on each table before they came in. In class I gave each student a folder, 2 index cards and copy of the style sheet. We talked about why we do a bibliography and that I was going to show them how to do one. I showed them the poster of a book entry and briefly talked about the order of information and where to fine that info in the book. Then they had to take one of the books on the table and an index card and write a bibliographic entry on the card for that book. Then I did the same with a magazine. I collected the folders with the cards and kept them until the next class. The next class I had an encyclopedia volume and a copy of a article from the internet on the tables. I downloaded 4 internet articles dealing with the presidential elections because they were doing a project on the topic. Then I made a copy of each article for each table rather than do one for each student. We repeated the lesson only with encyclopedias and the internet, spending more time talking about the internet. After they completed the index cards for these items I had them put the cards in alphabetical order and then write a bibliogaphy using the cards. The students kept their copy of the style sheet but I kept their files in the library and had a volunteer staple a copy of the style sheet inside each folder. The students knew it would be there for their reference whenever they came to the library. I believe the best way to teach this is to ask about a research project they might be doing in social studies, science, English. Have a ditto made up about the different formats; then introduce your part of the research project they're doing with the classroom teacher as assisting them in compiling a bibliography for their reports. When there's a need to know, the children will get the most out of this kind of lesson. I did a lesson with 5th graders which might work. I started off by asking them if they stayed to the very end of the movie, even after the closing scene. Then asked what comes at the end. This produced a fairly lively discussion of the credits. Thought not a direct analogy, I compared credits to a bibliography "Giving credit where credit is due." Then each child decorated a manila folder which was to become their own personal style manual. (It could also be used as a research, reference or projects folder.) After that I posed another question. I asked the students if they participated in organized sports or dance lessons. I explained that there are specific rules for bibliographies. (They may not make sense but we have to follow them.) I explained how a soccer throw in must be done in a certain way and that first position in ballet is a very specific position. (I even demonstrated right and wrong ways-good for a few laughs.) Comparing bibliographic format to sports rules is also helpful when you make reference to the different acceptable formats such as MLA or APA. (Same as Canadian rules football vs. Australian rules football vs. American football.) At this point I actually explain what you need to record for a biblio-the who, what, when and where info. We work from worksheets and real title pages and versos that I have copied. We work as a class and then partner up. Believe it or not, the whole lesson took an hour and I never lost their interest. I did this lesson in addition to their regular fixed 40 minute visit to the library. I did it in the classroom with the teacher present. Best way to make the instruction meaningful is to do it in connection with a classroom asignment that requires a bibliography. One alternative would be to have the students select a topic to "research" but only locate materials that contain relevant information and make a bibliography and not actually do the research. You could set criteria for number of sources to include and types to include. Hi, I just got finished teaching it to 8th grade. For 6th I would say go slow, maybe a book and a magazine to start. Show them citation format on overhead. Have each one practice it with books and magazines at their tables. I find multiple copies of a book and place one on each table. We do a bibliographic citation for that book together--they in groups, me on the whiteboard. They seem to get the gist of it after completing one book, and then I point out the difference between citations for books, magazines, encyclopedias, and web sites. I have them work in groups to do citations on another book, a magazine article, a web site, and an encyclopedia article. (I have three computers available, so they are able to use the computer when it's their turn. I ask a question that will be answered from our school's home page.) The whole lesson takes about 45 minutes, and they are busy the whole time. Try manipulative. Write the citation on construction paper. Cut it apart by fields and punctuation. Put the manipulatives in a paper bag and have the students "build" the citation by using the title page of the book and a MLA stylesheet. I prepare about 15 different manipulative bags and then allow the students to work together in pairs to "put together the puzzle". Homework is then given for work on an individual basis. It seems to be working. The best idea I've used with all levels is to make template slips for each kind of citation (book = white, Internet site = pink, encyc = green, etc) so they can fill in the info and then put the slips in order. Your template can provide the punctuation and show an example. I have usually done examples on an overhead with everyone filling in the same ones at first. Karin, if you turn it into an annotated bibliography and introduce it as NOT A REPORT, you can probably carry them along. After all, they will want to show some result of all of their work. Check around with the classroom teachers. You might be able to work it into a classroom project that is comtemplated. Just be careful with some students who will want to write a standard report no matter what. These may be the best students who have developed a formula and will ignore all instructions until disaster strikes. You could create a power point slide show for them. Have all the bells and whistles illustrating the various entries for a book, an encyclopedia etc. I did this with the card catalog. They can then access it on the computers themselves.( if you have enough) and look at it. Otherwise a large group presentation would work. Then they can possibly find their favorite non-fiction book and compose an entry. When I taught this (as an English teacher) to 7th graders, I had them all pretend that they were authors. I handed out forms, 5 to each student. Each was labeled, 1. Biography of your favorite person, 2. Autobiography, 3. Fiction Book, 4. Nonfiction Book, 5. Magazine Article on your favorite Topic. Under each of the headings was a list they had to fill out For the Books: 1. Your name: 2. Title of the Book: 3. Publishing Company: 4. Year Book is Published: 5. City where it is published: (I used the info of my English text as an example of how to find publisher, year, & city, The kids could use that or any book they had on them, or make up their own--most chose to "be creative.") For the Article, 1. Your Name: 2. Title of your Article: 3: Magazine it was in (I had a box of old magazines around so to help them choose) 4. Volume & Issue Numbers: 5. Date: (Many just copied information on volume & issue numbers from the magazines available, but many also made up their own.) Then, I collected the forms, and redistributed them randomly. Then we worked on forms (MLA, APA). They like the entire fantasy aspect of it, and we all got a lot of laughs from some of the titles. Go to NUEVASCHOOL.ORG and scroll to media center and then research. They have the most wonderful Bibliograph work sheet you fill out and it puts it into the right format and you copy and paste. My 6th loves ait and they use it all through middle school. Good luck Karin M. Gravina I have graphic organizers that I created and go over them in detail with the kids. I then hand them a format handout and a checklist of common errors. I then ask them to create a bibliography using a book, magazine article, and web site. They have three class periods to find the sources (they can be on anything and not related if they want but research related sites) and create a typed bibliography. I tell them to just go to the shelves and grab a book and give them a minute to do it. I "grade" them using a very unique scale which they find hilarious (PERFECT!-no errors; perfect-one error; perfec-two errors; perfe-three errors, etc). They have to keep doing the bibliography over until they all are PERFECT! Rarely do I get a child who needs to correct theirs more than once. I also correct the bibliographies from their teachers and if I find that they are not doing them correctly we keep doing the above assignment over and over. This they hate so it's a great motivator. Kaline: Hello to you in beautiful Maine. I once read an article in the English Journal, I think, about a lesson at a lab school where the students had to pick a topic they were interested in and find a variety of resources AS THOUGH they were going to do a report or whatever. They had to make a bibliography of these. The whole point was to learn to find things and to document them. I think there was a little bit more to it, but this is what I remember. This doesn't give you any catchy ideas on how to make it fun, but I remember when I read this that it made sense to keep the project small and focus on the mechanics, while still letting the kids research a topic they liked. Just tell them it has to be done and why, show them how, etc. They make an index card for each source. Good luck. I love Maine. -- Jane Hyde I had some success doing this using funny, made up sources. EX: Wolf, Big Bad. Grandmother Soup for the Quadruped's Soul. Forestville: Riding Hood, 1995. Dawn I've been teaching bibliography this year to 3-8. It's new for me but what I've been doing is each time they come in (once a week scheduled) they write the citation for whatever I'm reading. I used those primary sentence strips and wrote each piece =- author, title, publisher. I highlighted the punctuation with a pink highlighter. I check their papers each week and highlight what they've done wrong. After 6 weeks - some are getting it. It's copying accurately. Keeping in mind the pattern - author (last name, first name). Title. Publisher (place: name, date). I remind them the PERIOD notes the end of a fact. That tells the reader no matter how odd the name or long the title - the period is the end of that fact. Practice - practice- practice. It's not a one lesson skill - unfortunately....... ===== Kaline - all that glitters is not gold __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! 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