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Hello LM_NET friends,

I got a number of responses to my request for information on =
scope/sequence for bibliographic citations. THANKS for all your =
responses.  My teacher is happy! (and so am I - I confess I hadn't given =
a lot of thought to differentiated citations for different grades, but =
it makes a lot of sense!).  =20

A number of people recommended the following site:                                  
            =20
http://www.intac.com/~aroldi/index.html   [Just click on "Compiling a =
Bibliography" in the menu at the left of the home page]

I also got a couple of recommendations for Kathy Schrock's guidelines at =
school.discovery.com/schrockguide/    Scroll down to the=20
very bottom of the page, and click "Formats for Elementary Students."  =
This site is based on the site above!
 http://nausetschools.org/research/works2.htm=20

If you are looking for more indepth guidelines/standards, one person =
recommended the Virginia English Standards of Learning, which is =
available online at =
http://www.pen.k12.va.us/VDOE/Superintendent/Sols/EnglishSOL02.html.

Several people made more general comments, including

-I know as a middle school librarian, I do try to teach citing sources.  =
I use MLA, but SOLs say students can use either MLA or APA.

-I've used an abbreviated bibliographic citation form with my elementary =
students (grades 4-6) with middle school and high
school students being expected to write full bibliographic citations. I =
think the objective is to help students learn that they must
give credit for the resources they use. =20

-We had a school wide committee work on this a about 10 years ago. =
Students do their first research at 2nd grade, they are expected to =
include title and page we add author at 4th, going to full citations for =
everything except the most complex at 6th.  They are expected to have =
citations for everything starting at 6th, but for some complicated =
things we do the citation for them the first time.

- I am in a K-5 building. I have third grade fill in a full =
bibliographic citation, but I give them blanks to fill in with a label =
under each to show what part to put where. We work on capitalization, =
order, and punctuation.    Fourth grade has a citation workbook. each =
page is a different type citation. I have them do the full citation. =
giving them format and examples. I expect them to do capitals and =
punctuation correctly. I allow them to fix it, as many times as it =
takes, until it is correct. The workbook takes maybe 6 or 7 lessons to =
complete throughout the year, but they have it to refer to for their own =
classroom projects. We make it fun, by putting our own names in as the =
"second author" or the editor. Or creating the information about a made =
up book.    Fifth grade has a 45 minute lesson in which they do all =
types given format examples and given the needed information for each. =
All they need to do is plug it in the correct format. punctuation, etc. =
must be correct. I grade theirs with points off for ANYTHING incorrect. =
Of course, I always=20
allow them to re-do it until it is correct. So they all have the =
opportunity to get 100%. The learning is in the doing and re-doing.



Lou Murray Gorvett
Library Technician
Canadian Martyrs Elementary School
Kitchener, Ontario, CANADA
email: Louise.Gorvett@wcdsb.edu.on.ca

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