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Thanks to all who responded. Here is a hit as requested. Leonardo is from a time when surnames or last names as we know them were not yet common. in his case, da Vinci is a place name, meaning "from Vinci" and is not actually considered as part of his name. Therefore, he would be cataloged under his single name which is Leonardo. Hope that clears it up for you. -- Gail Smith, Librarian and Technology Coordinator Edison Regional Gifted Center, Chicago gsmith@edison.cps.k12.il.us Hi, It's because people didn't use last names in those days. His name was simply Leonardo the "da Vinci" simply means he's from Vinci so it's not a last name. Joanne Proctor Joanne Proctor Librarian Most Pure Heart of Mary School Topeka, KS jmproctor@mphm.com (school days only) joproctor@kscable.com (evenings/weekends Just as Ponce de Leon is frequently cataloged under PON, it's because of the general usage. If you speak of Leonardo, everyone knows who you mean. Paula The Library of Congress has the authority of Leonardo da Vinci as Leonardo,_cda Vinci,_d1452-1519. Which indicates that da Vinci is actually a title, not a last name. So it is cataloged as LEO because he does not technically have a last name. I am sure someone with an art background can give a more detailed answer. Hope this helps. Sincerely, Paula E. Riddle Because there are some figures that are best known by their first names and their last names are not really relevant. Leonardo is one, Michelangelo and Raphael are two other renaissance artists who fit this mold. Think of it kind of as their professional name, like Cher or Madonna. In any of these cases, you really don't have to ask Madonna who or Michelangelo who, or whatever. Of course, now that we have DeCaprio. . . :-) Sorry I don't have the cataloging rule handy to quote you on this, but this is the common sense rule to justify it, I think. Hope it helps. . . Shelia Demetriadis I asked the same question when I first arrived at the elementary school because I had books marked LEO and DAV and VIN. You've probably already received the answer - because his name is Leonardo and he is "from Vinci" da Vinci was not what he was known by. All my books then went into the Leo slot. Martha ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Martha Clement, Librarian Gilmanton School (K-8) 1386 NH Route 140 Gilmanton Iron Works, New Hampshire 03837 603.364.7311 FAX 603.364.5636 school email : mclement@gilmanton.k12.nh.us personal : martha@metrocast.net Cataloging the Leonardo Da Vinci is really YOUR decision. How do you catalog other biographies? Do you go by their first names or last names? What letters you used to catalog Steinbeck? Was it STE? If so, why should you use LEO instead of DA? Luis R. Ramos ACORN Community H.S. Library Brooklyn NY =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-==-= All postings to LM_NET are protected under copyright law. To quit LM_NET (or set-reset NOMAIL or DIGEST, etc.) send email to: listserv@listserv.syr.edu In the message write EITHER: 1) SIGNOFF LM_NET 2) SET LM_NET NOMAIL or 3) SET LM_NET DIGEST 4) SET LM_NET MAIL * Please allow for confirmation from Listserv. For LM_NET Help see: http://ericir.syr.edu/lm_net/ Archives: http://askeric.org/Virtual/Listserv_Archives/LM_NET.shtml See also EL-Announce for announcements from library media vendors: http://www.mindspring.com/~el-announce/ =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=