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Jill asked me to forward her message to the list, since her own keep bouncing (I gave her some suggestions on that, Peter). Interesting way they have of handling this. Please write to Jill or Barbara with questions, I'm just passing this on. Dan Dan Robinson HW Wilson Company Bronx, NY drobinson@hwwilson.com -----Original Message----- From: Jill.MIDOLO@eddept.wa.edu.au [mailto:Jill.MIDOLO@eddept.wa.edu.au] Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002 9:18 PM Hi Dan, There is an organisation in Australia called 'Screenrights' that deals with this particular aspect of copyright in Australia. They have a section on their website that explains what they do and how: http://www.screen.org/html/aboutus.htm Scroll down to the third paragraph to see the bit about educational institutions. As you can see, they administer educational copyright based on sections in the Australian Copyright Law. There is more in the Users section when you click on 'Australian Educational Institutions' http://www.screen.org/html/users.htm We have similar educational copying rights for books and music with these licences also being paid on behalf of schools by the education systems/departments in each state. Schools do have to keep records of what they copy and there is a system of auditing. Those agencies are: APRA [Australasian Performing Right Association] for music: http://www.apra.com.au/Licence/LEdu.htm CAL [Copyright Agency Limited] for print copying: http://www.copyright.com.au/educational_institutions.htm We really benefit in schools, but our education systems do pay a lot of money for these privileges. Cheers, Jill ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Jill Midolo, Editor Technology Focus and CMIS Evaluation Website CMIS (Curriculum Materials Information Services) Department of Education Western Australia 151 Royal Street East Perth WA 6004 Ph: (08) 9264 4192 Fax: (08) 9264 5708 Email: mailto:jill.midolo@eddept.wa.edu.au Website: http://www.eddept.wa.edu.au/cmis/eval/ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ -----Original Message----- From: Dan Robinson [mailto:drobinson@HWWILSON.COM] Sent: Thursday, 25 July 2002 8:01 PM Barbara, you gave the secret away in your last paragraph... you don't have 'freedoms', you have licenses to use the material. And the uses have been paid for. This should point the way for school librarians here in the US... get your state education agencies (or maybe a National initiative) to pay for a general educational recording license. Barbara, if you know of a link or documentation for how the program works in Australia, interested people here could use that as a starting point. Dan Robinson HW Wilson Company Bronx, NY drobinson@hwwilson.com > -----Original Message----- > From: Barbara Braxton [mailto:barbara@AUSTARMETRO.COM.AU] > Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002 7:40 AM > > > Dear Cheryl > Yes, I have had a couple of people point out that in the US > my suggestion would not be legal, but > under special licences purchased by our state education > departments, Australian schools would have > no issues with using this material in the way I described. > > The only restrictions placed on us are that anything taped, > rented or purchased only been shown as > part of a pre-planned program of instruction and the audience > must be restricted to those giving or > receiving that instruction. There are no restrictions about > where we may record from or how long we > may keep the recording. We can even make copies for other > schools on request, for the cost of the > tape and postage. > >.................. > > This is precisely the way our education authorities who pay > for the licences intend for the material > to be used, and these licences are the greatest slice of the > education budget after salaries! > > Don't you wish you had the same freedoms? > Barbara > > =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-==-= All postings to LM_NET are protected under copyright law. To quit LM_NET (or set-reset NOMAIL or DIGEST, etc.) send email to: listserv@listserv.syr.edu In the message write EITHER: 1) SIGNOFF LM_NET 2) SET LM_NET NOMAIL or 3) SET LM_NET DIGEST 4) SET LM_NET MAIL * Please allow for confirmation from Listserv. For LM_NET Help see: http://ericir.syr.edu/lm_net/ Archives: http://askeric.org/Virtual/Listserv_Archives/LM_NET.shtml See also EL-Announce for announcements from library media vendors: http://www.mindspring.com/~el-announce/ =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=