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Here is the information I received regarding my question on movies and War for the high school level. Thanks to all who replied. Our 8th grade teacher (US History) send home permission slips for R-Rated movies and shows clips or entire films of Glory, Patriot, Saving Pvt. Ryan, The Russians are Coming, Goodmorning Vietnam, Dr. Strangelove, Schindler's List, Europa Europa, Sophie's Choice, Amistead, Tora, Tora, Tora. In addition, he has a DVD is his classroom and he selects scenes to show certain points (e.g. uses Tora, tora, Tora to show US/Japan roles, etc.). ---- People have told me that it is nothing like the book (which I have not read) but Last of the Mohicans would be good for the French-Indian War. It's pretty violent, but I don't think it's gratuitous. --- I would recommend Glory (54th Massachusetts, first Black regiment in the Civil War) and The Thin Red Line (the army campaign on Guadalcanal). I think these are both rated R, but they're excellent films. I don't think that From Here to Eternity has an R rating? Here are several more: Midway The Longest Day Killer Angels Bridge Over the River Kwai --- I recommend you buy Past Imperfect and History Goes to the Movies for your collection since you have teacher interested in film literacy. They discuss historical movies and how accurately the films portray the events. Here are some recommended films from those books: Amistad Black Robe The Buccaneer The Howards of Virginia Plymouth Adventure Gettysburg Glory Gone With the Wind The Horse Soldiers Ironclads The Red Badge of Courage Broken Arrow Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid Cheyenne Autumn The Far Country I Will Fight No More Forever Jeremiah Johnson Shenandoah The Friendly Persuasion The searchers The Long Riders High Noon Son of the Morning Star Stagecoach Dances With WolvesWinchester 73 Sergeant York Al Capone King of the Hill The Front Page Places in the Heart Of Mice and Men The Grapes of Wrath Battleground Battle of the Bulge Run Silent, Run Deep back to BataanPrisoners of the Sun Court Martial of Billy Mitchell The Desert Rats Fat Man and Little Boy The Great Escape The Thin Red Line (1964) The Halls of Montezuma The Longest Day Memphis Belle Midway Since You Went Away The Best Years of Our Lives Patton Sands of Iwo Jima Tora Tora Tora A Walk in the Sun Bridges at Toko Ri Manchurian Candidate Men in War Pork Chop Hill Twelve O'Clock High American Graffiti Apollo 13 Blackboard Jungle The Right Stuff Quiz Show All the President's Men The Big Lift Hunt for red October The Age of Innocence Citizen Kane The Spirit of St. Louis the Long Walk Home Dr. Strangelove Sullivan's Travels Matewan The Molly Maguires drums Along the Mohawk 1776 Many more are discussed in these two books, but I tried to list those that are better depictions of history. Don't know about the ratings of some. --- I recommend a wonderfully thorough resource called the Internet Movie Database (imdb.com). Go to <http://us.imdb.com/Sections/Genres/War/> for an all-inclusive list. My own list would include: Glory The Patriot (Mel Gibson) Apocalypse Now Saving Private Ryan The Last of the Mohicans M*A*S*H The Counterfeit Traitor (1962, William Holden; worth seeking out) Casablanca Catch-22 Europa, Europa (Polish, 1990, original title Hitlerjunge Salomon) Braveheart Lawrence of Arabia You would know your students well enough to know what they could handle. Movies such as "Glory" and "Last of the Mohicans" were (I think) rated R solely due to the realism of their violence, which is what makes them such great movies. I would not hesitate to show either one, but it's a judgment call. I have shown parts of "Europa, Europa" to an adult ed. class (18-25 yr. olds) but not all of it because an important plot point is that a Jewish boy lies about his family and joins a Nazi regiment but is terrified of having his circumcision discovered. Kind of darkly humorous, but one of the best movies I know for explaining the Nazi movement up close. ----- Does your teacher want any particular war? My husband also teachers H.S. social studies and he's used several titles. I'm sure you've already gotten suggestions for "All Quiet on the Western Front" for WWI. He likes "Tora, Tora, Tora" for Pearl Harbor/WW2. I think there's also one called "They Were Expendable" (I think), WW2, John Wayne maybe. Mel Gibson's "The Patriot"--violent but realistic, shows the Napoleonic-style of fighting very well. I'll ask my husband for other suggestions. --- I am not sure that I understand the exact purpose of the assignment but, if it is to present war as it "really" is (or as close to it as hollywood can get) I would suggest the following. Some are R rated though. War tends to be X rated so one needs to bare that in mind. Pork Chop Hill - About Korea Platoon - about Vietnam (pretty graphic, but pretty accurate) Patton - WWII The longest day - WWII A bridge too far - WWII Tora, Tora, Tora - WWII Das Boot -WWII (told from the enemy's point of view) The enemy below (1950's WWII naval movie) Saving Private Ryan - WWII Glory - about the Civil War All quiet on the western front - WWI (old, made in 1930's but good) -- "In theory, there isn't any difference between theory and practice. 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