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AR acknowledges that the reading levels are based only on the vocab and sentence structure and do not reflect the content of the book. Most "adult" novels are written below the 8th grade level. Many books by Grisham, Grafton, Cornwell, etc. are in the 6-7 range. In AR, if you look at the goal setting chart, a student reading at the 12th grade level is assigned a ZPD of 5.6-10.7 with an average level goal of 7.5. That ZPD covers a huge percentage of my AR collection. He is free to read whatever he wants (almost) and should have little trouble meeting his goals. There are plenty of great novels, both modern and classic, between the 7.5 and 10.7 levels. Finding books above the 10th grade level is not necessary. The real problem, as Vicki pointed out, is the levels assigned to the non-fiction books. Using the same method for fiction and non-fiction is the biggest flaw in the AR system. We have country books and very easy biographies the level out at the 8th-9th grade levels. Most of our students reading at that level find these books insultingly easy. ---- Tony Doyle, Librarian Livingston High School 1617 Main St. Livingston, CA 95334 tdoyle@muhsd.k12.ca.us 209-358-2948 <Http://www.lhs.muhsd.k12.ca.us/library/index.htm> "You don't have to burn books to destroy a culture. Just get people to stop reading them."-- Ray Bradbury -----Original Message----- I think our profession needs a committee or a doctorial student to do some research into Reading Levels. If thoughtfully written, adult materials are mostly written at say an 8th grade reading level, than that should be what is considered a mastery level for high school readers. We also need to distinguish between reading levels for non fiction and fiction. Very easy non fiction books tend to have higher grade reading levels based on the computer's count of frequency of words. The misuse of reading levels by teachers and librarians seems to be doing huge damage to our students and library programs. I would love to know where all this "leveling" is coming from. I don't blame AR and RC-books have had reading levels in them for years. I blame us and teachers for selling out our professional evaluations of "reading levels" to computers. Where is the research to support all this leveling? Perhaps it is effective for early readers, but how do we know it is effective once the reading level advances to say 6th or 7th grade? I will get down off my soap box now! =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-==-= All postings to LM_NET are protected under copyright law. To quit LM_NET (or set-reset NOMAIL or DIGEST, etc.) send email to: listserv@listserv.syr.edu In the message write EITHER: 1) SIGNOFF LM_NET 2) SET LM_NET NOMAIL or 3) SET LM_NET DIGEST 4) SET LM_NET MAIL * Please allow for confirmation from Listserv. For LM_NET Help see: http://ericir.syr.edu/lm_net/ Archives: http://askeric.org/Virtual/Listserv_Archives/LM_NET.shtml See also EL-Announce for announcements from library media vendors: http://www.mindspring.com/~el-announce/ =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=