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I would tend to agree with the analysis below. Since apparently there is nothing in the software license to prohibit sharing the tests (watch for that to appear in future updates since this very public discussion has brought that issue to the fore) and the minimal factual content contained within a test would certainly qualify for a fair use defense, I can't see that RL has a significant claim on the tests. Yes, your creating the tests would potentially damage their market for future tests they might create (why buy theirs when you have already created your own?) but I believe it was pointed out that the program can only contain 500 teacher-made tests, thereby limiting the impact of a group of tests. Naturally I must add that I'm not an attorney and this is not a legal opinoin. However one LM_NET member posted the initial query to CNI-COPYRIGHT so I will be interested to hear what they say about the issue. Carol Simpson, Ed.D. Asst. Professor - School of Library & Information Sciences University of North Texas PO Box 311068 Denton, TX 76203 940-565-3776 (voice) 940-565-3101 (fax) csimpson@lis.admin.unt.edu >>> Gail Smith <ladyhunsdon@EARTHLINK.NET> 03/18/02 08:08AM >>> Cheryl King wrote: > I would rather someone like Carol Simpson weigh in on the issue of > making tests for AR, etc., but my thought is that it would be a > copyright violation because only the copyright holder has the right > to make a derivative work and reap the profit from it --i.e. > questions based on a book would be a derivative work. > I would also like to hear from an expert on copyright since a test, or any other activity we make related to a book has never been what I thought was a derivative work. If indeed it is a derivative, then most everything we do would in some way be a copyright violation. As far as Renaissance Learning goes, I did check my manual, as it was suggested that they might claim ownership of any tests entered into Accelerated Reader. I find nothing of that sort anywhere in the documentation. I just don't see how they can claim copyright violation in any way, since even if it is some sort of derivative, it can only be a derivative of the book, not of Accelerated Reader. They cannot claim intellectual property rights on the format of a multiple choice test, or even a computerized multiple choice test, both of which existed long before they did. It sounds to me as if they are just using copyright as a ploy, knowing that librarians as a group tend to respect copyright, rather than just telling us that they don't want us to damage their profit structure. I don't know for sure what the legalities of selling tests would be, but I cannot see how it could violate anything (except corporate profits) if we were to share tests at no charge. -- Gail Smith, Librarian and Technology Coordinator Edison Regional Gifted Center, Chicago gsmith@edison.cps.k12.il.us =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-==-= All postings to LM_NET are protected under copyright law. To quit LM_NET (or set-reset NOMAIL or DIGEST, etc.) send email to: listserv@listserv.syr.edu In the message write EITHER: 1) SIGNOFF LM_NET 2) SET LM_NET NOMAIL or 3) SET LM_NET DIGEST 4) SET LM_NET MAIL * Please allow for confirmation from Listserv. For LM_NET Help see: http://ericir.syr.edu/lm_net/ Archives: http://askeric.org/Virtual/Listserv_Archives/LM_NET.shtml See also EL-Announce for announcements from library media vendors: http://www.mindspring.com/~el-announce/ =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-= =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-==-= All postings to LM_NET are protected under copyright law. To quit LM_NET (or set-reset NOMAIL or DIGEST, etc.) send email to: listserv@listserv.syr.edu In the message write EITHER: 1) SIGNOFF LM_NET 2) SET LM_NET NOMAIL or 3) SET LM_NET DIGEST 4) SET LM_NET MAIL * Please allow for confirmation from Listserv. For LM_NET Help see: http://ericir.syr.edu/lm_net/ Archives: http://askeric.org/Virtual/Listserv_Archives/LM_NET.shtml See also EL-Announce for announcements from library media vendors: http://www.mindspring.com/~el-announce/ =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=