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If we do not assess students and their ability to use the resources then = we can not complain about not being treated as professionals. = Professionals, pretest, teach and assess their teaching methods. I = have learned what my students know and don't know from assessment. If = the teacher corrected or assessed their library research skills (not the = information), then you as the librarian will not know how well your = students did with the skills you taught. If you teach using Boolean = logic and narrowing and broadening topics, test to find out how = successful your teaching methods are and what needs additional = instructions. We aren't testing the students to give them a grade, but = to bring about full success through changing our methods or providing = more instruction to students who show the need. The students will = respect what you are trying to teach if they know it is important enough = to grade. =20 Should library skills be a separate grade from the "classroom" grade? = Not in a integrated program! My students get grades from the library = included in their math class, science class, computer literacy class, = etc. I have given pretests in one class (social studies) and explained = the results in science. My classes are across the curriculum and I = teach it as such. If you aren't integrated, then maybe assessing = students to see what they need to learn is acceptable, without the = formality of grades, but it should be a standard tool for you to use to = measure progress and student needs. We need as a profession to work on = assessing our methods through student testing. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-==-= All postings to LM_NET are protected under copyright law. To quit LM_NET (or set-reset NOMAIL or DIGEST, etc.) send email to: listserv@listserv.syr.edu In the message write EITHER: 1) SIGNOFF LM_NET 2) SET LM_NET NOMAIL or 3) SET LM_NET DIGEST 4) SET LM_NET MAIL * Please allow for confirmation from Listserv. For LM_NET Help see: http://ericir.syr.edu/lm_net/ Archives: http://askeric.org/Virtual/Listserv_Archives/LM_NET.shtml See also EL-Announce for announcements from library media vendors: http://www.mindspring.com/~el-announce/ =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=