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THANKS TO ALL! Your opinions help to guide my decisions. ----- Original Message ----- From: Julie Masterson <Julie_Masterson/HFL@HFL.MONROE.EDU> To: <LM_NET@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU> Sent: Monday, March 25, 2002 4:03 PM Subject: Target: Flexible vs. Fixed Scheduling in Elementary Schools > Okay, I have read the research on flexible vs. fixed scheduling in elementary > schools, now I'd like to hear the opinions of the professionals. What do you > think? > > Julie Masterson-Smith > Manor School Library Media Specialist > Honeoye Falls, NY 14472 > Julie_Masterson@hfl.monroe.edu Subject: Re: Target: Flexible vs. Fixed Scheduling in Elementary Schools Julie- Please post or send the replies on to me, if you don't mind. We are undergoing a discussion in my district on a "variation", i.e. seeing 3rd graders for 3 months, 4th graders for the next 3 months, etc. I have grave doubts about this. But I am not totally close minded. Amy Ipp Glenwood School Short Hills Nj Lu83@aol.com cc: Subject: Re: Target: Flexible vs. Fixed Scheduling in Elementary Schools Julie: Not a professional here; but I feel like one after working as a librarian assistant with the same librarian for 9 yrs. We have a combined flexible with fixed schedule. To make sure every student is given the chance to check-out, each class has one 15 min. c/o time weekly.....they may come back at any time during the school week and day to return their books for another one with teacher's permission. ALL of the time we are open for anything the teachers request......small group research, small group pleasure reading, whole class research w/ teacher assisting, small group reading enrichment assisted by the librarian, computer research, small group or individual check-outs, etc. We feel with the flexible schedule, that the children get their hands on the books more ........ they actually get and enjoy more hands on time with books. The children feel it is an absolute privilege to enjoy the library away from a whole class setting.....they appear to appreciate books more when they have more quiet one on one time with a book away from the multitude of children in their class after they have finished their daily classwork. It is also a privilege to the librarians to be able to deal with the children on a more one on one basis.....we feel that we have more input on their education that way. Judy Magee Librarian Asst. Madison Sta. El. Madison, MS Flexible scheduling My opinion---just mine. Please do not print with my name. Flexible scheduling is an ideal in elementary school. However, its success depends on the size of the library, the size of the campus, the number of staff members to handle everything, freedom given to students to come to the library on their own (some campuses do not allow young children to roam alone), automation, support of principal and staff. I have played around with it for 10 years in an elementary school. Generally speaking, it is not well-received by teachers. I also never had a library big enough to accomodate flexible access for check-out and research at the same time as a lesson or story was happening. Flexible scheduling is sort of like whole language. I really think elementary students need structured lessons in library use. It is very difficult to be sure that you have covered all of the skills with every class with flexible scheduling. I do think flexible access for check-out and small group research is essential, though. I also believe that skills are best taught at the point of need. Depending on staffing and school size, though, whether flex or fixed, it is often impossible to see all classes once a week (as teachers would like) and provide any time for administrative activities, collaborative planning, etc. My best schedules were a combination of flex and fixed. PreK came to the library once a week for a story. K came to the library once a week for a story, some skills, and later on, check-out combined with some skills or story. 1st came to the library once a week for the same, but started checking out in the first few weeks of school, after a review of responsibilities and procedures. 2nd through 5th were on a fixed schedule every other week for 45 minutes each time. Skills were combined with curricular objectives or whatever they were studying at the time (as were K and 1st whenever possible) and they could check out books. That left me with 3 open check-out periods each day---30 minutes before scheduled library classes, for about 45 minutes around lunch periods, when my assistant was not available to me, and 30 minutes at the end of the school day. In addition, I had Fridays unscheduled, and available for flexible scheduling with a class or even an entire grade level, to come and spend as much time as we deemed necessary for a project. Also, it gave me Fridays as a whole day for outside speakers/readers/programs for the whole school, when I didn't have to change any other schedules around. At various times, depending on the size of the student body, I sometimes had a couple of hours in a block on another day, to do the same. And to tend to administrative tasks, computer troubleshooting, etc. Not every teacher was with happy with the every other week aspect---but there weren't enough hours in a week to see every class once a week anyway! Many saw the advantages of having a day they could schedule when they needed something extra. I felt comfortable in that I was sure I got in some of the necessary skills. Since my scheduling came after the scheduling of PE/music/ fixed reading times, I was able to have a set time each day for each grade level (not the ideal for me--that meant I saw 4 or 5 grades in a day). So, my opinion for elementary school is that we need a combination of flex and fixed scheduling that allows for teaching a sequence of library skills to everyone, and allows times for independent research and book check-out. Sharon Gonzalez Librarian Connell Middle School San Antonio, TX sgonzalez3@satx.rr.com sgonzalez@saisd.net Subject: Re: Target: Flexible vs. Fixed Scheduling in Elementary Schools I've done a fixed schedule where teachers could stay and participate in lessons, a flexible schedule with teacher collaboration and participation and a fixed schedule that provided planning time for teachers. While the fixed schedules can be made to work, the flexible schedule definitely works. If you use a fixed schedule with teachers - you can plan and co-teach, you can integrate skills but not always at just the right time, you do get to see all children in equal doses. If you use a fixed, prep-time type schedule you can plan but not co-teach. It is much harder to integrate skills at the right time and right level. You have very little if any flexibility to work with varying levels of learning or in having kids return another day to finish work - everything is blocked in by the schedule. With a flexible schedule, you can plan ahead and have the teacher as a partner. You can each work with smaller groups of kids. Kids can return to the library several days in a row or go back to the classroom as they finish work in the library. You can connect skills and lessons with classroom units at just the right time and complete big research and literature projects. So, I vote for flexible but can make fixed with teachers work. I am very much against providing prep time - information skills are tools not a stand-alone curriculum like PE and art and music. If uniform checkout is a concern, you can always have short, scheduled checkout times, especially if you have an aide or volunteer help. If uniform class time is the big issue, then teachers will have to understand the need to schedule you and your resources - and the principal will need to back you. Judy Smith Media Specialist Vandergriff Elementary Fayetteville, AR 72703 501.521.2850 Subject: RE: Target: Flexible vs. Fixed Scheduling in Elementary Schools The teachers at my school would never stand for a straight fixed, or a straight flexible schedule, so we do both. We're a K-6 school and here's how we do it: Mornings we have a fixed schedule - one week primary classes are scheduled, the next week it's the upper grades turn. After lunch, it's a flexible schedule. Our school is really pushing Accelerated Reader, so in the afternoons each teacher can send two to three kids whenever he/she wants to to get another book. Teachers may also send kids for research, etc. It seems to work out really well. Of course, at first some of the teachers didn't want to come only every other week. They gave me the old, "My students are going to be so sad they can't see you every week!" To which I responded, "What are you, nuts?? You're students can see me every day. You, however, will only see me once a week!" Heaven forbid they actually have to teach for another 30 minutes every other week!!! Good luck with whatever you decide. Lisa Jessup Library Clerk Pendleton Elementary School Buena Park, CA LJessup@bpsd.k12.ca.us Subject: RE: Target: Flexible vs. Fixed Scheduling in Elementary Schools I like the fixed/flex schedule. I have classes for set periods of time, but the center is always open for walk-ins. The fixed part gives me the opportunity to formally teach media skills to ALL students, not just those that visit the Center frequently. A fixed/flex schedule also allows for meeting with classes to work on special projects. We have a very active Media Center, and I think part of the reason for that is because the students feel comfortable knowing how to use it. I hope you'll post a hit, I'd love to see the responses you get. Norma Gregory Friendship Elementary Deltona, Fl norbud@cfl.rr.com From: STIRKK@annunciationacademy.org on 03/25/2002 09:25 PM GMT Address Information Subject: Re: Target: Flexible vs. Fixed Scheduling in Elementary Schools After 16 years I can say the theory is great :) but it doesn't work in practice :)))) =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-==-= All postings to LM_NET are protected under copyright law. To quit LM_NET (or set-reset NOMAIL or DIGEST, etc.) send email to: listserv@listserv.syr.edu In the message write EITHER: 1) SIGNOFF LM_NET 2) SET LM_NET NOMAIL or 3) SET LM_NET DIGEST 4) SET LM_NET MAIL * Please allow for confirmation from Listserv. 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