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Thanks to everyone who responded to my request for feedback on working with a school elementary library with no planned collection budget. This library makes money to use for the collection through two book fairs and donations. Summary: Half the responses were sympathetic and encouraging, with suggestions for good fund-raising ideas. The other half said "Run away very fast!!" Maggi Rohde, Children's Librarian Canton Public Library, MI maggi@intranet.org ------ RESPONSES (This is only about 2/3 of the responses, as I was responding to and deleting posts before someone asked for a HIT.) Okay Before you panic. Find out how much is usually donated. Then put togethr the list of books that you need. Find out if you are in charge of the book sale and can order the books you want. Do families donate a book everytime a kid has a birthday? make sure that it is one from your wish list. Then start campaigning for a line budget for reference and currulum support materials. ---- I have a collection budget, but I also get a lot of books from the bookfair, PLUS the vouchers they give after the profits are in. I also supplement my collection budget with profits from bookfair. I'd say that amounts to almost $13,000. I have two fair per year, grossing almost $25K. The first thing I do is pull at least one copy of most hardcovers and two copies of the "Dear Diaries" series. I also pull any hard copies and at least one paper copy of each Bluebonnet book (the state award list). Then I get a couple copies of the "big sellers" of the fair. This amounts to about $1000 each fair. I also receive about $450 in free product vouchers, per fair, after my sales figures are in. These must be purchased from a specific catalog, but I get big books and a pretty good selection from that. Finally, I net between $8-10K in profits. While PTO helps me run the fair, the profits are all mine. This is what really helps me. My collection budget was about $6K this year for materials, I spent almost twice that. This is an upper middle class Dallas suburb with VERY involved parents. My students (app. 570 in a K-5 school) love to read. When I do a "doughnuts with Dad" event, I get at least 150 dads in here--I've never seen so many Dads in an elementary school at one time! ---- I'd run the other way screaming. You'd be forced to accept donations of junk and wouldn't be able to support the curriculum at all. ---- My library had no budget for many years. (Thankfully, I now do, although it's still not what it should be.) There are many ways to supplement a too-small or non-existent budget. These are some of the ways I did / do it: 1) I run two book fairs a year, fall and spring, and have all the profits from them to use. 2) I encourage donations. Many of our books, especially those for younger readers, come from school families whose children have "outgrown" them. 3) I have formed friendships with other librarians in our local public schools and public library. Many times I have been able to get books and other materials newly discarded by them that are still in excellent shape and not too old for my purposes. Sometimes duplicate copies may be discarded simply because of space considerations; there's nothing wrong with them. 4) For several years I was able to use some of what was called Chapter 2 money -- Federal funds distributed to schools. These funds must now be used to pay for our mandated statewide testing program for fourth and seventh graders (we have no other way to pay for them) and so are not available for library usage anymore, but this might not be a consideration in Michigan. Check into where your school district's federal funds are going. 5) Our school runs an annual fund drive. (We are, of course, a non-profit organization, and donations to us are tax-deductible.) I have several friends and family members, and I myself, who donate to this annual fund drive and who earmark their pledges for the library. The library usually earns about $1000 per year this way. 6) This year I'm having an author speak to the school in May (Patricia Polacco! I'm so excited!). I've arranged with a local bookstore to have several of her titles available here at the school for the children to buy the day of her talks. Since I will be handling the sales table, the library will get a percentage of the book sales. 7) I attend librarians' and teachers' conferences of various types whenever I am able. There are very often "freebies" available for librarians at these events. Just visit the various vendors' tables and mention that you are a LIBRARIAN, and see what you can get. Teachers sometimes are not eligible for these items, so be sure to say you are a librarian. These items can be everything from a book (especially samples of such things as Perma-Bound or Turtleback books, for example) to a poster of Newberry or Caldecott medal winners (often provided by Perma-Bound), to various fun items you can use as students rewards. 8) Various companies (such as World Book, for example) offer promotional programs which can result in a free set of encyclopedias for your library. Check into these. There are other ways to get money and/or materials, too, but this gives you some ideas. Don't give up just because you have no budget. You can still do a lot! It's just more work. ---- You might want to check to see if they get any federal or state monies that are earmarked for libraries. Perhaps what they meant was that they don't budget any money from the school itself for library books, instead they depend on the federal and/or state monies and the donations from the book fairs supplements that. When I worked for a small school that was having financial difficulties that was how I managed to get what materials I needed. ---- I find that I spend roughly 3,000 of my salary getting books. I don't do this at one time, but I see a good buy and I pick up a book. Later, I need a book that I don't have to do a lesson on and I go out and get it. Last year, when I tallied up the receipts for income tax purposes I found that I had spent 3,000 dollars. I also can't do a book fair or other fund raiser so I am stuck. ---- I would RUN - not walk away from this school. There is a quote somewhere to the effect of the measure of school's commitment to learning can be measured by their library. This kind of situation is absolutely criminal! ---- Personally, I would not work there. What is the point? A school that does not have a library budget at all does not value its library very much. I would definitely look elsewhere. ---- Forget it. That school is nuts! ---- I am currently in that situation, all my book purchasing money comes from the proceeds from my bookfair. It does provide an incentive to do well at the bookfair. Every 2 or 3 years I do get to go and ask the Superintendent for money to buy Encyclopedias and other reference books, which does help a little. This is a fairly affluent suburb, but the community does not like to spend money on the schools, so we make do. This is by no means an ideal situation, but if you have a sympathetic administration, and you can present a good case,=A0they can sometimes find extra money for special purposes. ---- Run away!! Don't apply, that's unworkable if want to have a decent media center for the students. I don't get much, byt each year it's improving! ---- I am curious as to what kind of school would routinely not give its library a book budget. Is it a private school? Many of us must do without a book budget when the district has a financial crisis. We get books however we can--using book fair money, donations, grants, etc. However, in normal times, the library should be given a budget and if you do take the job, I would do it with an eye to lobbying those in charge to give you a budget. I think my main concern is not the lack of a book budget for a year or two, but what kind of collection the library has if this situation has been going on for many, many years. It would not be fun to work in a library with a poor collection. ---- Have several fund raisers. In a course I am taking, we have discussed this issue. One librarian sells bagels to the h.s. students every morning for more money for books. One has a "wear a hat to school day" and for 50 cents, donated to the library, the student that pays gets to wear a hat to school on that day. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-==-= All postings to LM_NET are protected under copyright law. 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