I'm not sure what advantage there could be in teaching non-standard
versions, but I can sure think of some advantages of teaching to an
established standard:
1. Kids don't have to relearn a process with each teacher. I think the
teachers would appreciate the efficiency in teaching time.
2. You can start teaching earlier. Kids get the basic layout on basic
sources early (say 3rd grade) and build to more difficult.
3. The Librarian doesn't have to worry about which teacher's class is in
when helping kids with bibs, or assist teacher in teaching it.
4. There is published material available for the really sticky cites. No
trying to 'guess and figure'.
5. Samples of writing sent as part of resumes or portfolios will look
more professional.
Our district 'standardized' a couple of years ago. One Librarian at one
HS started the process, getting the English dept to use current MLA.
Then Media Dept got other HSs to sign on, the Middle Schools followed
quickly. Now we can hand out a sample guide at elementary that matches
the HS requirements.
Teachers see that there is an 'official' style and use it.
Deborah Stafford writes:"Is it more important that we get the EXACT MLA
styl= e or that we teach the importance to students following a standard
for citations? By this I mean -- the English teachers at my school do
not al= l agree on what the "correct" style is. I have a print manual
for MLA (recent), have shown them several web sites including one from
the Modern=
Language Association. I also show them the citation guides from out
electronic databases (which I would assume are correct). In each case at
least one teacher is sure that isn't correct form. These teachers hand
ou= t their "standard" format."
Robert Eiffert, Librarian at Image Elementary
www.ima.egreen.wednet.edu/library.html
Library BLog
www.crypticmachinery.com
beiffert@attbi.com
-----Original Message-----
From: School Library Media & Network Communications
[mailto:LM_NET@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU] On Behalf Of Deborah Stafford
Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2002 2:54 AM
To: LM_NET@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU
Subject: GEN: citation compilers such as noodletools
We also miss noodletools, and will be unable to subscribe at this time
since my budget has been spent. I do agree that the makers of
Noodletools=
should be compensated - and that keeping the site ad free is a bonus. If
you read the information on their site, they also regret what happened
bu=
t
had very little choice.
I have shown the two alternatives listed =
EasyBib http://www.easybib.com <http://easybib.com> MLA free,
MyBibP=
ro
gives MLA or APL BUT users need a subscription at $5.00 per year. There
i=
s
a version for libraries at a cost of 25 cents per student, per year. =
Slate Citation Machine
http://landmarks4schools.org/citation_machine/cm_web.php3 =
Returns citations in both MLA and APL format. So far no subscription
rate=
. =
Several English teachers are most willing to let their students use
these. One teacher is going to make students do several hand written
one=
s,
then compare theirs to one of these to see how close they can come. =
I am thinking out loud here --- In looking at which does the best job
of=
supporting MLA style. Is it more important that we get the EXACT MLA
styl=
e
or that we teach the importance to students following a standard for
citations? By this I mean -- the English teachers at my school do not
al=
l
agree on what the "correct" style is. I have a print manual for MLA
(recent), have shown them several web sites including one from the
Modern=
Language Association. I also show them the citation guides from out
electronic databases (which I would assume are correct). In each case at
least one teacher is sure that isn't correct form. These teachers hand
ou=
t
their "standard" format.
I tell the students that they should always find out what the standards
a=
re
for the class they are taking. If going on to college, find out what the
standards are for that college. There may be a guide book for sale in
the=
college book store giving the standards expected.
As I said, I am thinking out loud. I would be interested in other
opinion=
s
as I have an open mind on this.
Deborah J. Stafford
Gen. H.H. Arnold High School
Wiesbaden Germany
now proudly on the web at http://www.wies-hs.odedodea.edu
Deborah_Stafford@compuserve.com
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