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Dear LM_Net, Having between 130-180 students in a small library is probably a fire hazard. Find out from the district or fire marshall what your maximum capacity for your library is, then enforce it. You can set up a sign in sheet for every period with a finite number of sign ins. Once the limit is reached (all your seats are filled) then ask students to go to the cafeteria. Also, Carolyn can't be expected to monitor 100 - 130 students - if a student gets hurt in the library then their family can sue the district and Carolyn for inadequate supervision of students. Now to solve the larger issue. Students coming to the library without any purpose for doing library work. Go to the teachers who use the library a lot for research assignments and ask for their help. They need to let the principal know that their students can't do any research in the library for their classroom assignments because it is a zoo. With teacher support, the principal should see that the current setting is harmful to the academic achievement of the students. Hopefully, the principal will work with the staff to change the current system. If not, then Carolyn needs to talk with her union. No certified teacher should have to be responsible for supervising individual 100-130 students per period in the library and be expected to teach library skills and handle research classes at the same time. This places the librarian in a dangerous position of being sued if a child is hurt. Also, the union should be concerned about teacher to student ratio in the library. A grievance could be filed if the principal doesn't change this dangerous situation in the library. Peter G. Mohn, LMS Snohomish Freshman Campus Snohomish, WA pmohn@foxinternet.net Carolyn Gierke wrote: > skatz@bedford.k12.ny.us writes: > >Do any of you out there have a similar problem? > > > >In our high school of 1,000 students (and growing), many students have > >"free periods" on their schedule. Because we are in a relatively small > >building, the students are told to either go to the library (monitored by > >me and one aide) or go to the cafeteria, which is monitored by a security > >guard. No one wants to go to the cafeteria, so about 100-150 students end > >up in the library every period. Usually there is a class in the library, > >adding about 30 students to the total. Obviously we do not have enough > >seats for all these kids, so kids are camping out on the floor between the > >stacks and basically all over. It is a complete and utter zoo in here, not > >conducive to studying, researching, or even thinking! > > > >My question to you all is how can I approach my adminstration about this? > Your teachers who are trying to use the library with their classes have to > back you up. > >I > >was thinking about video taping a typical period in the library to show > >them how awful it is to use the library as a study hall. Any ideas? > A video is not a bad idea, but you need a group of adults to go with you > to the principal, (or bring up the topic at a faculty meeting) and discuss > it. You need backing. It will be a big change that the kids will resist. > > > > > >Thanks, > > > >Sarah Katz > >Library Media Specialist > >Fox Lane High School > >PO Box 390 > >Bedford, NY 10506 > >skatz@bedford.k12.ny.us > > > >=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-==-= > >All postings to LM_NET are protected under copyright law. > >To quit LM_NET (or set-reset NOMAIL or DIGEST, etc.) send email to: > >listserv@listserv.syr.edu In the message write EITHER: > >1) SIGNOFF LM_NET 2) SET LM_NET NOMAIL or 3) SET LM_NET DIGEST > >4) SET LM_NET MAIL * Please allow for confirmation from Listserv. > >For LM_NET Help see: http://ericir.syr.edu/lm_net/ > >Archives: http://askeric.org/Virtual/Listserv_Archives/LM_NET.shtml > > See also EL-Announce for announcements from library media vendors: > > http://www.mindspring.com/~el-announce/ > >=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-= > > > > "In theory, there isn't any difference between theory and practice. 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