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I was just composing a new thread on this topic: Follet's AR reading levels vs Renaissance Learning's. The new books I just ordered from Follet came with the AR reading level info. on the inside page, but my sister Elem school LMS says this is not the correct AR info & she is changing her dots (ugh!) to match RR's. Does anyone know what she is talking about? Sue Fox Library Media Specialist Jackson Elementary Jackson, GA sugarfox@bellsouth.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "Madeline L. Buchanan" <mlbuchanan1@CHARTER.NET> To: <LM_NET@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU> Sent: Monday, September 02, 2002 9:20 AM Subject: AR Reading Levels > I have had to explain to several of the upper elementary teachers that many > times the AR levels chosen by Renaissance Learning do not always match > either the reading level or interest level of the content. Several teachers > are insistent that students read nothing below their actual grade level and > I have to show them the book itself to let them know that these levels are > not always consistent. I have contacted Renaissance Learning several times > to dispute a reading level only to be told that the vocabulary is the sole > reason for determining levels. It doesn't make sense that "Scorpions" by > Walter Dean Myers is leveled at 3.7 while Grolier's Nature's Children books > are leveled at 5th grade up. Even most of the Dr. Seuss books are 3.9 up. > > One of the 4th grade teachers started testing last week and I was appalled > at the failing scores. I feel that it is important for a student to try an > easier test first just to get the hang of taking computer tests and then > increase the reading level. Many of the students have forgotten how to take > the tests over the summer or are not reading and comprehending the book > before attempting to take the test. > > No, we don't want 5th graders reading and taking tests on "Arthur" books, > but I feel that it is important to use judgement instead of reading levels > when helping a child select a book. The child's interest also must be taken > into consideration. > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > Madeline L. Buchanan > Library Media Specialist > W. J. Christian School (K-8) > Birmingham, AL > Voice: (205) 231-5277 > Fax: (205) 231-5279 > Email: mlbuchanan1@charter.net > Email: mlbuchan@hiwaay.net > http://mlbuchan.home.hiwaay.net > http://www.wwisp.com/~wjcs/ > > "The imagination should be allowed a certain > amount of time to browse around." > --Thomas Merton > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > > =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-==-= > All postings to LM_NET are protected under copyright law. > To quit LM_NET (or set-reset NOMAIL or DIGEST, etc.) send email to: > listserv@listserv.syr.edu In the message write EITHER: > 1) SIGNOFF LM_NET 2) SET LM_NET NOMAIL or 3) SET LM_NET DIGEST > 4) SET LM_NET MAIL * Please allow for confirmation from Listserv. > For LM_NET Help see: http://ericir.syr.edu/lm_net/ > Archives: http://askeric.org/Virtual/Listserv_Archives/LM_NET.shtml > See also EL-Announce for announcements from library media vendors: > http://www.mindspring.com/~el-announce/ > =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-= > =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-==-= All postings to LM_NET are protected under copyright law. To quit LM_NET (or set-reset NOMAIL or DIGEST, etc.) send email to: listserv@listserv.syr.edu In the message write EITHER: 1) SIGNOFF LM_NET 2) SET LM_NET NOMAIL or 3) SET LM_NET DIGEST 4) SET LM_NET MAIL * Please allow for confirmation from Listserv. For LM_NET Help see: http://ericir.syr.edu/lm_net/ Archives: http://askeric.org/Virtual/Listserv_Archives/LM_NET.shtml See also EL-Announce for announcements from library media vendors: http://www.mindspring.com/~el-announce/ =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=