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I was asked to post a hit about my problem with Accelerated Reader. I have added new titles and students are testing over material that has been read in the past. This was causing quite a problem with prizes and points. I now understand why some schools do not give out prizes. Here are some of the suggestions I received. My rule is that students must have finished reading the book within the last week! Otherwise it isn't a reading practice program; it is just a memory testing program If they really read the book and retained it for some length of time, then YES! After all, reading and comprehension is the goal and in this case, retention is the bonus. Just make sure they are not taking the test with the book in their hand. How would you really stop it? Grill every child as to when they read the book? Not allow them to test on books that they own themselves? I think it will level off shortly. I have kids who try to test on books they read in the past. Most of the time they fail because they don't remember the details. I always encourage students to reread books before testing, but can't force them. I have others who read books that I will buy tests for in the future, but the money isn't there yet. I tell them that they will be AR and to read carefully! I encourage any kind of reading, for rewards or not. I wouldn't discourage those who have been reading all along! Those kids have their little bit of respect from the others for the number of points they have earned and that is not bad. You will also find teachers who embrace the program, read AR books to the classes often, and require and give time for reading and tests every day. I find these classes rack up points like crazy. Then there are other classes where the teacher doesn't want to do it and they have zero points! Is that fair? No, but it is the way it is. If a student can remember enough to pass a test that is good. Do you have rules in place that require a monitor to OK the test? The monitor does not have to be a teacher. Reading log indicating how many pages read per night/day could be the ticket to get to take a test. I tell my students/teachers which tests are on order. I tell them it may be a month or two before the tests will arrive depending upon the time the purchasing department takes to get a PO out. The good news is that this is likely to be a one-time problem. Many critics of AR say children should read "for the joy of reading," not for rewards. It seems these children who have been able to increase their point levels (even dramatically) have been reading for pleasure. It seems wrong to punish them (or, to not reward them for their efforts). These kids will probably end up being the top point earners, regardless. At our middle school a book must be read during the current grading period to receive credit for it. We do not allow students to retake tests until the following year. I think that if the students were able to remember enough about the books to pass the tests, they probably deserve the points. That's a lot of reading--and truly, if they read that much and remembered it well after-their comprehension must be terrific. I'd let them keep the points! What a great morale booster for them Doesn't seem fair to penalize kids who have read on their own by telling them they can't take the tests...and they must have done a good job of comprehending the books if they passed the tests. Besides, trying to police who had read what and when would be an impossible job. I often have kids who test on books they have read elsewhere. We have a fairly high mobility and I've had new students come in and get 100 points their first week when they retest on books they read at their old school. Just to make it "fair" why don't you announce it to all the kids and give every one of them an opportunity to take advantage of the new tests. That way the kids whose teachers don't buy into the program also get a chance to participate. You could call it an AR marathon and turn it into a school wide program. I would say that as long as the kids are passing the quizzes, there really isn't a problem. The main goal of AR is to increase reading comprehension. If the students are remembering what they read, they should be allowed to take the quiz. If there are specific students who are failing several quizzes of books they read previously, I would talk to them privately and tell them they need to reread the book before taking the quiz. We do have one teacher at our school who always tells students they have to have read the book THIS school year in order to take the quiz. As far as the prizes go, just raise the bar to correlate with the points students are earning. Hope this helps! We used to have similar problems in the past, as well as another: students trying to pass a test on a movie rather than a book. :-) As a result, many teachers have started to use the AR reading log with their students. In order for the points to count toward the student goal, the book must be entered into the log, and either the parent, teacher, or I have seen them reading the book. Students may still choose to take quizzes on other previous reading, but it won't count toward the reading goal. --Karen Brostad/Teacher/Elem Tech Coord Bennington Public Schools Bennington, NE 68007 kbrostad@huntel.net Knowledge is what remains when the learning stops. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-==-=-=- All LM_NET postings are protected by copyright law. To change your LM_NET status, e-mail to: listserv@listserv.syr.edu In the message write EITHER: 1) SIGNOFF LM_NET 2) SET LM_NET NOMAIL 3) SET LM_NET MAIL 4) SET LM_NET DIGEST * Allow for confirmation. 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