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Folks: This is the first hit I will do on Distance Learning. This is the first hit that I am doing and hope that I am doing it correctly. I tried posting before and it did not post. Thank you for your responses. Presently, I am finishing my fourth distance learning course. My university is at least 3 1 1/2 hours away if there is no traffic. The course that I am presently in is called Hardware/Courseware for the Media Center. My professor lives in Mississippi and the rest of us are in NJ. Some of my fellow students are alreqady working in media centers and the rest of us would like to some day. This summer we been learning how to create a Cyber Library and running the 21st century librarian. I can safely say that I love taking these courses and never work harder in my life. Each distance course is different and one needs to make sure of what is required because some courses might require on site work to be completed. With Jersey City I a can take all my course work online except my internship. They will be sending someone down to observe me when I doing this class. Another neat thing about this is the other people in my class. There are two ladies who have the responsiblity to redesign their library for their inner city school that houses special needs students. Two other ladies (we also have an occassional male in the class) who work in two completely different levels of media centers (one is elementary and the other is jr.high). Since we display our work on message boards or web sites I learned so much more then I would in a regular class. ~~~~~ http://www.flvs.net/ this school has been in operation for about 6 years. lots of info on their site. ~~~~~~~~~ I have only experienced it from the student side, so I don't know all the details of how it was set up, but I suggest you look into the Department of Defense Dependent Schools district. I was a student in those schools (these are schools on the overseas American military bases), and because our schools tend to be on the small side, we often used distance learning to cover the higher-level classes that wouldn't fill at any one school. I took my classes about 10 years ago, by which time it was already a fairly established part of our schools. I took AP Physics through distance ed, and I enjoyed it very much. It's one of the best classes I've taken! I was in Japan, and my teacher was in Germany. He filmed his lectures before the school year started and sent copies of the tapes to each school where he had students. We also had supplementary videos done by PBS... I have forgotten the series name, but it was an excellent series that aired in the '80s -- lectures given by a physics prof at CalTech (?). Each week we got the plan for that week (day 1: watch lecture, day 2: do this experiment, etc.). We turned in our assignments via e-mail -- he generally assigned many problems and asked us to turn in only certain ones to him, since typing them up was tedious. We asked questions via e-mail (of the teacher but also of our other classmates around the world). As you might have guessed, there is a lot of honor system involved here! We had a local teacher (the physics teacher) who acted as an on-site contact if we got particularly lost, but there was no one watching us during each day's class period to make sure we watched the whole tape or did every problem or whatever. We "conducted" class ourselves, so our set-up is definitely not for everybody. We took our tests in the library, where the media specialist kept a vague eye one us, but even she had no knowledge of whether we could use calculators, books, etc. or not. At many of the DoDDS schools, most of the AP-level classes are offered only through distance ed, but the more basic levels of courses are not. I think there is some assumption that students who are that interested in AP are likely to be self-motivated and disciplined enough to function with little guidance. Because of the nature of the school district (small schools located VERy far apart), DoDDS has been a bit of a pioneer with distance ed. Perhaps someone has done some more detailed explanations of how it works (research paper or something); it might be worth looking for. (Incidentally, DoDDS is sometimes also called DoDEA: Dept. of Defense Educational Association.) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ I taught high school online for two years. I am very enthusiastic about learning in this method. However, since your board is just beginning, there will be many pitfalls, not least of which is the tendency to think that machines, rather that teachers are doing the work (and lack of funding, teacher-support, and general experience with this medium) Students on the whole need more support in cyberspace, so the teacher needs to be accessible. On the other hand, a lot of time is wasted in the regular classroom just getting the class "ready" to learn. I have a web site that I created for an assignment. It discusses the pros and cons from a student- centred perspective. You can view it at: http://www.atherton.ca/mdde/assign60/ I am also sending you an email that I sent to another teacher-librarian from Zimbabwe when she asked to interview me online about online learning. Hello Roberta, I could write about this subject all day..so my replies are little long-winded. Here are the answers to your questions: : : 1. Do you facilitate a turnkey course, or one of your own design? I wrote all my courses : : : : 2. If this is your own course what was the most difficult part of : converting your curriculum to the online environment? You must provide not only content (such as you would find in a text) but also clear submission guidelines for assignments and even clearer instructions. The web site is also the classroom space (along with the forum or message board) and you need to create a friendly atmosphere The work must be paced so the student has early success, and I feel it is better to have several small assignments that build to a culminating product. In this way you provide feedback and instruction and the student does not get "lost"... You need to remember that the student can only see one page at a time online. With a book there are pages to flip through, and in a class there are other students as well as the teacher to give clues. If a turnkey course, how much : : flexibility do you have in changing the course to suit your teaching : style? The more control that the teacher has the more successful is the teaching/learning experience, because it can be individualized. Standardization and individualization are mutually exclusive concepts. You can't have both at the same time. : : : : 3. Do you feel as if you “get to know” your students? In face to face : : interaction body language is an important part of communication. What do : you feel best compensates for this direct interaction? I feel that you get to know the cognitive/learning style of your students better online, since you are writing directly to each other. When I would meet the students during the exam, it would feel like we were well-acquainted. There are no distractions online; all communication is personal and individualized. In a classroom, the teacher rarely gets to speak to a student individually. If you are tired or frustrated, you can wait until you are refreshed before you answer a message. So the communication remains positive. This is not always the case in the classroom, where there are usually too many demands on the teacher at the same time, with limited resources, space, time, etc... : : : 4. How do you manage feedback? Do you have set times in the day you read : or answer emails? I would answer all emails within a school day. If I was not available, I would tell the students in advance. I preferred working in the early morning and sometimes in the evenings, if there were a lot of assignments to mark or messages to answer. The main advantage of online teaching is "any time, any place and any pace" for both the students and the teacher. : : : : 5. Do you use set chatroom times for “office hours”? No, I did not have office hours. I found that most students preferred to work in the late evening. This was also indicated in the course web statistics, and did not wish to answer emails after 10 pm. :o) Does the chatroom serve : : any other purpose in your course? Must the students “attend” at specific : : times in the chatroom? Do you have an informal chatroom also, and if so do you participate or is this only for students? Chatting, I found was a waste of time, though I did have several chat programs available. I would use them mostly for sending larger files, when the students were submitting longer reports. When the students chatted, it was with each other, privately, outside the school chatroom (ICQ, etc...) just as they would in school. When they were on chat with me, they literally wanted to chat - "how are you, Did you see a movie on the weekend, etc...not school related and did not have the interest or the time for "idle" chat. : : : : 6. How quickly do you try to respond to emails? I would answer within a day if possible. When I was teaching 4 classes at the same time, I would try to get back to the students within 3 school days with their marked assignments. If the students needed assistance, they were told to put "Help" or "Question" in the subject line of the message and I would answer right away. I always looked for these message first. In the Orientation, worth 5% of the final mark, I laid out the rules for online communication in the beginning of the course. For each course, I would have a separate email address and for each student I would create message rules so their messages went directly into their email folders on my computer. Otherwise, I would be swamped with messages and get disorganized. They also had to identify themselves in the From line by their REAL NAMES not an alias, and put the topic of the message in the subject line. : : : : 7. Do you use threaded discussions? If so about how many responses are : : posted per day? Does this part ever feel overwhelming? Yes the discussions were very productive, but I would ususally post a topic and insist that the students write a response, and reply to at least two other postings. If they posted an assignment for marks, then I would have them send me a message to notify me. I used a lot of peer evaluation, and tried to stay out of the discussion as much as possible. Just give encouragement and post the best submitted work online, or in a student showcase. See http://www.atherton.ca/showcase.htm : : : : 8. Approximately how much time do you spend per week facilitating your : : course? One hour per student per week. 50 students would be 50 hours per week. - this is for high school students. : : : : 9. Do you feel it is more or less work to facilitate a course versus : : teaching a traditional class? It is more work at first (it takes about 3 months full time to write a 100 hour course for a semester), but then the work is mostly done and each time you run the course, it is easier. You also collect exemplars to show the students, and this does the teaching for you. The problem lies in the tendency for the school board to give the online teacher too many students, as though the computer does the teaching, not the teacher. If you have a 100 students, you can end up teaching around the clock, and there are only 168 hours in the week. : : : : 10. Do you feel your support structure is effective? Would it be for a : first time facilitator? I kept a tracking sheet for each student (an Excel spreadsheet) so the students knew exactly what their marks were, which assignments were due and when. I updated and sent it to them every time they submitted, along with a marked version of their assignment. They always knew their marks. This was very helpful. I had another teacher use one of my course, but I gave her a lot of support material - and she felt it was easy to use. Having examples of previous work is also helpful. : : 11. What learning strategies do you feel work best for the online student and you? Individualizing is best. For example, I taught students who were LD and they used Speech Recognition software to write emails and post on the message board. It is also best to empower the students - encourage them to find resources and share their knowledge with others. They like seeing what others are doing. They tend to "find" each other too - another student with similar interests and background or circumstances. It is important to have a good welcome conference - and stay out of it- so the students get to know each other. I would have the students finish sentences that I posted in the Orientation unit. The students won't work for a machine; they need to know that someone cares about them and their progress. : : : : 12. What types of assessment do you use? Do you post rubrics for any : : assignments? I used a variety of assessments. Online quizzes/tests, letter writing, postings, powerpoint presentations, report writing, completing forms, manuals, creating web pages, etc...I always posted an evaluation checklist or rubrik. : :: : 13. Do you have any tips you can share, either things to avoid or : strategies for success? Remember the human, and encourage the students to learn how to communicate effectively in the online environment -with correct grammar and spelling. They will improve dramatically in this area. Reading instructions and posting and writing (specific) requests for instructions will improve their literacy greatly. It is one of the greatest benefits of online learning. Find someone to talk to for support. You will start to feel isolated, if you don't have someone to reflect with about what you are doing. You will need to be very patient, since their are always problems when you rely on technology. Back up your work! :o)) You can look at one of my Business English courses - I have it saved, though I am no longer teaching it. I shortened it for a one month summer school, and it is copyrighted by the TDSB. http://www.atherton.ca/EBS4A/ -login "ebs4a", password "money" We are a small single-school district, so distance learning has always appealed to us as a great way to offer more courses and more flexibility to our students. We have tried two different programs and were not happy with the results. We offered courses through Cyber High. It appealed mainly to kids who were behind in units. We also offered several Advanced Placement classes through AP Online. So we have really seen both our high-performing and our low-performing kids attempt online courses, both with the same results--it was simply too difficult for them to be self-motivated to keep up with their coursework, and most were not successful. From what I saw of both courses, the content and presentation of the material was good. It was simply the students' lack of self-discipline and maturity that kept them from being successful. In both cases, the teachers who were supposed to just help them get started and periodically check-up with them spent an enormous amount of time with discipline and performance issues because the kids were not completing their assignments in a timely manner. In short, what was supposed to be an extra duty turned out to be a nightmare for many of the teachers assigned to monitor the distance ed kids. We have tried allowing the students (in groups of 1-2 per period) work on their online courses in the open library computers and tables. They were more often off task than not and often skipped their period altogether. We then set up a separate office with a new computer and desk for them to work in and found that while they appeared busy, it was often doing anything BUT their coursework. We've also had issues with cheating during tests as it's been hard for us to find someone free to proctor who could devote 1-2 hours per test without interruption (teacher would be called from the room and kids would cheat). In short, we have soured on distance education. I have taken online classes myself and have trouble planning, organizing, and keeping up with them in the same way I do a face-to-face class, so I can imagine how difficult it would be for most teens to take on this challenge. Just my experience. ______ Frances Maye Graduate Student Jesey City University JoyTBear@comcast.net =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-==-=-=- All LM_NET postings are protected by copyright law. To change your LM_NET status, e-mail to: listserv@listserv.syr.edu In the message write EITHER: 1) SIGNOFF LM_NET 2) SET LM_NET NOMAIL 3) SET LM_NET MAIL 4) SET LM_NET DIGEST * Allow for confirmation. LM_NET Help & Information: http://ericir.syr.edu/lm_net/ Archive: http://askeric.org/Virtual/Listserv_Archives/LM_NET.shtml LM_NET Select/EL-Announce: http://www.cuenet.com/archive/el-announce/ LM_NET Supporters: http://ericir.syr.edu/lm_net/ven.html =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-=-