Thank you to everyone who offered help with my cataloging questions. The
original questions were:
1) What Dewey books should I be using to catalog? Index version? Tables
version?
2) Where do I purchase them? (Online services are not an option. I need
hardcover books.)
3) I have a detailed question about Lewis and Clark books, and I would
like to correspond with someone to help me.
I did not have time to edit through them for duplicated information. I
skipped a few replies that had been completed covered already.
Also, I received back several emails when I tried to reply to certain
people. We have a lot of filters on our district server and
unfortunately, some messages bounced back. If you did not get a personal
thank you, do not worry! Your help was appreciated. The Lewis and Clark
books ended up in the 917s. Thank you.
Joyce Pavelko
Learning Center Director
Ivy Hall School
Buffalo Grove, IL
jpavelko@district96.k12.il.us
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There is a long version of Dewey (4 volumes) called DDC 21 put out by
Forest
Press. It has index and tables and everything. That's what I use.
There is
also an abridged version of the same thing, put out by the same people.
It's
one volume I think. If you have a small library with simple numbers,
abridged will do. If you ever like to carry numbers out so you have,
for
example, cooking books categorized by country the food is from-- then
you
should buy the long version. I use the index volume for predictable
numbers
that I think I already know and the actual Dewey volumes for tricker
stuff.
The tables are to know suffixes for numbers if you want to further
subdivide
them geographically or linguistically, etc.
The main rule if you aren't sure or there are two logical places is: put
it
where you think your students will find it. That's the whole reason for
cataloguing after all.
Kathy Bowman
Library Media Teacher
Poly High School
Riverside, CA 92506
kbowman@poly.rusd.k12.ca.us
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You can all you need to know about Dewey.. what's available,
price, etc. from the new publisher: OCLC:
<http://www.oclc.org/dewey/>. If you need information on Sears, go
to <http://www.hwwilson.com/print/searslst.htm>.
Dan Robinson
HW Wilson Company
Bronx, NY
drobinson@hwwilson.com
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We are finding that our 40 year old library needs a little revamping in
it's cataloguing, too. Weare having a similar experience, so take
heart...you are not alone!!
To see a product listing, visit here:
http://www.oclc.org/dewey/products/index.htm . The Abridged 13 may be
all you need, depending on the size of your library. Contact
information for Forest Press is at the bottom of the screen; just scroll
down.
Our high school library has about 19,000 books, and we find that the
abridged numbers suffice most of the time. If you think you want the
unabridged version, there will be a new edition being published in July,
according to OCLC.
If you want to look up unabridged numbers on occasion, there are places
on the internet you can do that, such as the Library of Congress
website, or Canada's Amicus Web. But beware!!! I've noticed that
particularly on the L of C website, the cataloguing for older books is,
well...old! Outdated cataloguing isn't what you need. However, of the
old number is the same as the new number (which you'll be able to check
in your new Dewey Abridged book), then you can probably trust that the
unabridged number is the same too.
Amy Johnston
Library Technician
Swift Current Comprehensive High School
Swift Current, SK, Canada
http://eec1.scedk12.com/edu/scchs/
ajohnston@scedk12.com
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I use the LC cataloging a lot & I use Follett cataloging a lot.
Unabridged Dewey decimal Classification DDC 22 will be available in
July. It costs $375.00. The abridged Dewey 13 is 90.00 New abrid. in
Jan. http://www.oclc.org/fp/products
Forest Press is part of OCLC now
I catalog for a school district thus I do change what LC has used at
times. Lewis and Clark. What LC does with this is if they feel it is
mostly history about the country and people they put it in 973.4 or 978
but like most journeys and explorations most are in the 9teens L & C
917.8 seems to be the number I have used most of the time lately. Some
explorers in the 910's.
What is more important than having exactly right number is IS it in
with like stuff and Have you consistently used it.
This does mean you can have things in 2 or more places at the same time
and yet seem to be the same if the materials in the old place are not
going away in 2-5 years I might try to move them.
Sally S. Ellis
Library Media Processing Coordinator
Arlington Public Schools
2801 Clarendon Rm 101
Arlington, VA 22201-0868
703-228-6394 Fax 703--527-6314
e-mail ssellis@arlington.k12.us.va
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One option you could use is the _Sears List of Subject
Headings_ it includes the Dewey number with each subject heading.
I worked with a librarian once who was so concerned about
getting the book in the right classification number that it
sat on the shelf in the work room for at least 4 years. So my
philosophy has been to get the book on the shelf for the students
to use, if your catalog is up to date then the students will be
able to find the book.
Emily J. Honaker, Library/Media Specialist
Delaware Area Career Center
Delaware, Ohio 43015
honaker30@dealwarejvs.org
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My cataloging instructor told us that it was impossible to catalog a
book
incorrectly as long as the information on the spine label matched that
on
the card (this was before computers took over). My previous library had
over 30,000 books, and I sometimes found duplicate copies of a book
cataloged and shelved in two different locations! At first this bothered
me, but then I realized that students who browse the shelves may look in
only one of the two areas, so I left them.
>1) What Dewey books should I be using to catalog? Index version? Tables
>version?
Unless you are a very large library, I'd use the Abridged version.
>2) Where do I purchase them? (Online services are not an option. I need
>hardcover books.)
I'd have to dig back purchase orders to see where I ordered mine from,
but
it is published by OCLC Forest Press
>3) I have a detailed question about Lewis and Clark books, and I would
>like to correspond with someone to help me.
If no one else have volunteered, ask away. I'm rearranging the library
today, so I'm not at the computer a lot, but I do sit down to take a
break
every so often.
David Lininger, kb0zke
LMS, Hickory County R-1 Schools
Urbana, MO 65767
mailto: tss003@mail.connect.more.net
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There is a new version of Dewey, Dewey 22, coming out this summer. You
can purchase
it from OCLC/Forrest Press. This is the full version of Dewey, the most
complete. The
size of your library and the depth of your collection will probably help
you decide if you
want the full version, or the abridged version. The full version is
$375. We are a high
school library, with about 20,000 volumes and I use the full version.
We tend to cover
certain areas very deeply (for history, mostly) so the full version lets
the numbers be
more accurate.
Dewey Decimal Classification and Relative Index. Edition 22.
Four volumes. 2003. Permanent paper.
ISBN 0-910608-70-9.
The abridged version is version 13. Condensed in one affordable volume,
Abridged
Edition 13 is designed to meet the needs of libraries with fewer than
20,000 titles. If
your library does not need to classify in great detail, it’s the perfect
choice.
Abridged Dewey Decimal Classification and Relative Index. Edition 13.
1997. 1023p. Permanent paper, buckram binding. ISBN 0-910608-59-8 cost
is $90
You can order online at http://www.oclc.org/dewey/products/
If that won't work, try
OCLC/Forrest Press
6565 Frantz Road
Dublin, OH 43017-3395 USA
Tel: 1-800-848-5878 (no phone orders)
Fax: 1-888-339-3921
E-mail: deweyorders@oclc.org
Maureen M. Frank
Harvard-Westlake School
3700 Coldwater Canyon
North Hollywood, CA 91604
(818)487-6588
mfrank@hw.com
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I would use the 973 number for L&C. I think that is where it is in my
library.
There will be a new DDC coming out in July.
http://www.oclc.org/dewey/
The ones I am using are quite old.
For Dewey Numbers I use:
http://www.sunlink.ucf.edu/
For additional information on dewey numbers I check these websites:
Rochester ROARing Cat http://rrlc.library.net/
MAINECAT NETPAC http://maine.library.net
http://catalog.loc.gov/
http://209.139.56.3/search~S0
http://www.suffolk.lib.ny.us
I particularly like them because you can see how the various libraries
classify the book. Iowa has an online catalog but it does not give dewey
classification. Using the online catalog of one library at a time is not
as
convenient.
The old fashioned way is described below.
Other sources I once used are the Wilson Library Catalogs (there are
five
different standard catalogs. If you don't have one you can find them at
the
Public Library.
Bob King, K-12 Librarian
Midland Community School Wyoming, IA 52362
roking@midland.k12.ia.us rjking222@yahoo.com
http://showcase.netins.net/web/midland/
http://www.midland.k12.ia.us/
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I have found that the book I use the most is Sears Subject Headings
because the Dewey numbers are listed with the subjects. You're right
about things changing. They really have and if you have inherited a
media center where previous specialists didn't pay attention to
cataloging rules, you're collection could be dispersed throughout the
room. (I know. I have one.)
To deal with my problem, I've run lists of subjects, for
example, "Native Americans" to see where the books have been
cataloged. Some have been catalogued as 970.1 because Native Americans
were considered a people. Some books are catalogued by the state in
which they mainly are native. Some books are catalogued by the region
in which the tribe is native. My question was, what's the best use for
my school? For me, it was clear that when students and teachers look
for Native American books, it was to research a unit. Therefore,
having all the books in one section made the most sense. So I re-
catalogued all the books and shelved them in 970.1. It's not the
current correct cataloging rule, but it works for our school.
I'm assuming that you have an automated system such as Follett or
Athena that will allow you to download records from the Library of
Congress site. This has saved me an enormous amount of time because I
download the record and edit it for out collection. If you don't know
how to do this email me back and I have directions somewhere. I just
need to know what system you use and if you run on a MAC or PC.
Connie Parker
madamehooch@comcast.net
Media Specialist
Dearborn (MI) Public Schools
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