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I LOVE to weed! I've been in several districts and each has its own philosophy about how to discard books. A professionally run library = media program will always promote appropriate weeding, which really is part of collection development. My district has an online survey where they ask teachers a simple question (among many, many others!), "Does your school library media center have current, up-to-date books on the topics you = and your students need?" Current here means within the last 10 years! Halleluiah! A district that supports current materials in the = collection.=20 As an aside, I view the LMC as a learning laboratory. How can a lab have out-dated materials? Get rid of the stuff! If it doesn't belong in your library, how can it belong in the classroom? -----Original Message----- From: School Library Media & Network Communications [mailto:LM_NET@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU] On Behalf Of Reed - Ann Cober Sent: Monday, November 03, 2003 2:13 PM To: LM_NET@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU Subject: Re: SHARE: New life for used books CAUTION re: "I give up. We smuggle books to the dumpster in plain, unmarked = boxes, like we are moving contraband across the border." Hear, Hear !!! Someone who finally tells it, like it is. The only way I throw out books now (after 25 years of fighting this perpetual problem) is singlely in the trash can...each and everyone = marked in black permanent marker... "Deleted" or "Withdrawn" WITH what's wrong = with it... "pages missing" or "damaged" also in black permanent marker. = WITH the barcode ripped off. Sometimes, when I'm in a snit (that happens = when I've just had that same comversation AGAIN about "throwing away good = books" ) I even remove the front cover and throw it out on another trash day. I think the WORST EVER PR that has ever come from weeding books is from = my own teachers. They do NOT understand professional library weeding philosophy. This goes especially for when in the past I have put the = weeded books in the teachers' lounge for teachers to choose from in case they = could make use of any of the titles. The comments are often snide. Such as = "I NEED XXX... and SHE is THROWING away GOOD BOOKS. Believe me, every time = I have explained the professional philosophy... for all the good it has done... The down side of this, I believe library schools are still telling new "librarians-to-be" to donate old books to classrooms, teachers and elsewhere. And if that is so, it is quite a disservice. A point: I have always donated specific books that are still good, but not appropriate, i.e. great titles, but not used for a long = time....case in point, some great how-to books on stage production... to the teachers that could make use of them. BUT they have become a terrible problem... they are continuously returned to the library, because they still look = like library books...even when I've written, again in black permanent marker..."property of" with the teacher's name... The only bright spot in this for me now, is that I presently have supervisors that understand and promote and as well as stand behind us = in proforming our weeding duties. And that has not always been the case. Thank you Tony, for putting this perpetual problem in the same context = that my 25 years of experience shows it to exist in... to the dumpster "like contraband to the border." On Mon, 3 Nov 2003, Anthony C. Doyle wrote: > When I weed books that are inappropriate to give to students or to put = > in the classroom I have to box them and have my student helpers put=20 > them directly in the dumpster when no one is watching. My=20 > predecessors > (apparently) did no weeding. I have spent 6 years trying to get rid = of > all of the garbage. The teachers and custodians were freaked at the > idea of a librarian throwing out books. If we put books in the = garbage > can, the custodians would take them out. If we box them and leave = them > for the custodians to remove, clearly labeled as trash, they leave = them, > certain that I have made a horrendous mistake. I had a teacher = actually > stop my TAs from throwing books in the dumpster, certain that they had > misunderstood me or that Mr. Doyle had lost his mind. I have had the > "can't these books be donated..." conversation with at least 10 > teachers. No matter how eloquently (or forcefully) I argue you can = see > in their eyes that they are never fully convinced. They are sure = there > is a flaw in my logic that they are missing. I give up. We smuggle > books to the dumpster in plain, unmarked boxes, like we are moving > contraband across the border. > > ---- > Tony Doyle, Librarian > Livingston High School, Livingston, CA > tdoyle@muhsd.k12.ca.us=20 > <Http://www.lhs.muhsd.k12.ca.us/library/index.htm> > "You don't have to burn books to destroy a culture. Just get people=20 > to stop reading them."-- Ray Bradbury > > = =3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D= -=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D=3D-=3D-=3D- > All LM_NET postings are protected by copyright law. > To change your LM_NET status, e-mail to: listserv@listserv.syr.edu In=20 > the message write EITHER: 1) SIGNOFF LM_NET 2) SET LM_NET NOMAIL > 3) SET LM_NET MAIL 4) SET LM_NET DIGEST * Allow for confirmation.=20 > LM_NET Help & Information: http://ericir.syr.edu/lm_net/ > Archive: http://askeric.org/Virtual/Listserv_Archives/LM_NET.shtml > LM_NET Select/EL-Announce: http://www.cuenet.com/archive/el-announce/ > LM_NET Supporters: http://ericir.syr.edu/lm_net/ven.html > = =3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D= -=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D--=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D- > ______R____E____A_____D_______________R_____E_____A_____D_______ Ann Cober Reed, MLIS, Librarian/Media Specialist A 1999 Maryland Technology Academy Fellow Col. 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