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Thanks to all of you who offered your kind words and advice for solving the LMC/TECH problem. I learned that there are many others out there struggling with this same problem. Most of you agree that we are going to have to recognize that there is an overlap in our job descriptions and work out a compromise. I have divided this hit into Resources and Comments. If any of you have any suggestions, please share them with the list. There are a lot of us who could benefit from them! Thanks again. I will let you know how things work it out. Marilyn Harfst, LMS Hannah Beardsley Middle School Crystal Lake, IL harfst@sbcglobal.net Resources: Information Technology for Learning: No School Left Behind by Ferdi C. Serim http://www.bookmasters.com/marktplc/00988.htm It describes a "team" of folks implementing technology in a school ... and the LMS plays a vital role. Graphic from the book: http://www.oii.org/IT4L/ Ferdi extracted some information from that for an article in the January issue of MultiMedia Schools. http://www.infotoday.com/MMSchools/jan03/serim.shtml Look at my article describing the role of the LMS. http://www.infotoday.com/MMSchools/mar00/murray.htm This article describes the "DoDDS" approach and deals directly with overlapping roles: http://www.infotoday.com/MMSchools/mar99/vanepps.htm Mike Eisenberg addressed the issue of teamwork (and the LMS role) in that same issue: http://www.infotoday.com/MMSchools/mar99/eisenberg.htm Comments: I am fortunate to work in a county where each school has a media specialist, local school technology coordinator, and a technology service technician. I am the media specialist and handle everything to do with the research process...locating databases, web sites, print resources, etc. The LSTC handles the computer labs and directs any production projects. The TST handles hardware issues. It's a good division of responsibilities. ********** Fortunately, I have had a great partnership with both of the tech teachers I have worked with. Both of us (as well as the principal) agree that we each have our own areas of expertise, although we allow for plenty of overlap! Basically, the students know I am their primary source when they are looking for information in whatever format and that is what I teach. I also address the issues of plagiarism and website evaluation. Since I am responsible for the easy access to information, I also design and maintain for our school web page. My partner takes over when the kids are working on information presentation: keyboarding, word, powerpoint, excel, video, etc. She also is the primary network troubleshooter. ************ A tech coordinator would be invaluable in assisting a teacher to take his basic lessons and integrate 1 or more technolgy components. For instance, the tech could locate pertinent web sites and then help the teacher to create a powerpoint which embeds web sites, video clips, still pictures etc. into the presentation. The tech could help the teacher put the classroom notes onto a powerpoint that can be viewed later by students who missed the lesson the first time, or who want to review concepts. The tech could even put those presentations onto the web for students to access at home. Meanwhile - the LMS encourages teachers to bring students into the library to do more "in depth" research. The LMS can then prepare a web page of pertinent research links. Meanwhile - you are the person to determine the concepts you wish to teach - such as using the OPAC to locate print materials, using the web to locate needed print materials from other libraries, effective web search strategies, effective use of research subscription databases etc. Ask for her assistance in "team teaching" the search engine concepts. She could perhaps teach the different merits of various search engines and you could teach the students how to evaluate what they find. There really IS room for both of you - if you can just both get together and work on common goals. The students and the teachers will both benefit! ************* I am a high school librarian and there is a full time tech person in the Library. How it works for us is that we combine our presentations to staff and students I work on the Library part and she works on the technology part. However, a lot of technology is in the library. I still tell students and staff what it is, how to use it, etc. She maintains the technology. Like creating drives, giving access, maintaining computer repair in the library and computer Labs. She does handle the web page but I give her info on what the Library page should look like and what I want in it. We both work together and work off of each other. ************** I absolutely agree that there is no way to separate technology from the modern LMC. I would suggest that the technologist concentrate on integrating technology into classroom teaching. She could be working with teachers to help them use technology and websites to enhance teaching concepts in the classroom. The technologist could take charge of the school web site and you could be in charge of the library part of that website. Both of you can provide prominant links to each other's portion of the website. The tech could then develop classroom pages for the teachers to use in their day to day teaching. You would concentrate on developing online research pathfinders for the research projects. These lists would include web sites and also list books and other related recources that you have in your LMC. Research classes would come to the library to use the books and the internet connected computers. YOU might even decide that you need to schedule the class into the instructional computer lab - just like any of the other teachers in the school do. You could work with the tech to come up with a list of skills also reach an agreement on how to teach those skills so that you are not giving the students conflicting information. The tech would teach/reinforce those skills in the context of what is going on in the classroom. You will teach/reinforce those skills in relation to the research projects. ********* In our system the tech folks are responsible for the hardware (keeping it all functioning) and installing software etc. and the media specialist works with the instructional applications of the technology (working with teachers to design assignments integrating use of tech., teaching student how to use resources,providing staff dev. for teachers etc.. Obviously there is overlap (network decisions reflect use) but basically one has responsibility to keeping it working and the other to encourage its use instructionally. *********** My school is a K-5 school and I know how you feel. This year we received a grant and a classroom teacher was made the technology coach. I have done the technology for about 12 years. I was so happy to know that I would have help, but she has taken over completely. ************* Golly, isn't it wonderful that your school is so technologically adept that one person can neatly handle all the issues that come up? (irony intended). That is the key. There aren't enough hours in the day for the IT person to handle all the technical problems AND train students and teachers on tech integration. The facilitator needs some instruction, from the principal if necessary, since you have similar training and qualifications. ********** My situation is K-8, 2000 kids and I wouldn't want to start a day without our techie. She and I complement each other; today we worked together to get second graders SRI tested in the computer lab, she handled log in issues, I did Reading Counts issues; we both helped kids get logged on and started. Problems in the labs and Maria not around - I fix what I can - simple stuff "reboot" "add a printer", software issues, etc. If I'm teaching she can handle circulation issues and media center computer problems. She is not a certified teacher; I don't have or want admin passwords. I do some teacher training, she does others but we're always both present to assist the other. I'm her best canary - I tell her when the network is slow, not working or internet is down cause I know it first. We are both paddling as hard and fast as we can to help as many kids as possible to 1. have access to information and 2. be taught information skills. If you both have the same vision I'm sure the workload can be divided in some places and shared in others. Good luck - I'm keeping my fingers crossed for you to work it out cause it's a beautiful thing when it does. ************ I was new to my school this year but stayed in the same district. I met with my tech person right away and we decided what duties I was to take on (Circ system, AR, some Internet) and what she would do(maintain classroom computers, servers, create the web page). We also overlapped in many areas such as web site management, server trouble, and general computer matainence. We both agreed that we would share many of these duties (takes a lot of burden off of one person). Plus we made our staff aware that they could come to both of us with concerns, so if one is busy the other might be available. We usually keep each other posted through verbal communication. One of the things you might suggest to this person is the need for a back up. Heaven forbid that something happens to one of you, at least the other is there to keep things running smoothly. I may have an easier time of it being in a small elemenatry library but the back up idea is very important. *********** Our tech people (three of them) and the librarians (two of us) work together rather well, primarily because there are some things that we each do better than the other (and admit it). The one thing that I noticed that has integrated our departments was when we (the librarians) wrote our Information Literacy curriculum this summer. We reviewed several different curriculums that we received from a variety of schools, integrated what we felt would work best for us, and divided the curriculum into areas that included the library and the technology areas. We talked about the curriculum for three months and explained how we felt that technology and research worked well together (especially since we had several online databases that were in the library that could be used by our students--and the tech people didn't know how to search them...but were interested.) We (librarians) spent the summer writing the curriculum and put a lot of emphasis on what we wanted to do regarding the library areas and research (using Information Power Standards, Big 6, etc.). After we finished writing the curriculum (and it was approved by the administration), we then asked if the tech people would help us to "tweak" the technology areas by giving us ideas of how we could integrate a variety of technology areas that they taught into the Information Literacy program. We told them that since they were the "experts" in the field of technology, that we would depend upon their knowledge of how difficult tasks might be for students in order to determine at what level specific goals and objectives might be approached (for example: Kindergarten students will be able to identify the following items on a computer: mouse, keyboard, CPU, monitor, etc.) Our tech people met with us, added their ideas and more goals to our curriculum. They became excited because we asked that when we begin to integrate the Big 6 skills into the curriculum that they be involved in helping the students integrate the technology into their projects. (As a team approach--- teacher, library media specialist, and technology instructor--- we are supporting the curriculum and moving the students forward to more understanding.) Overall, we were a bit sly in our approach...but in the end we have been objective and involved them in our new endeavor...Information Literacy. Perhaps if you develop an idea where the two of you can integrate the best of both areas, then you can share the work load without stepping on toes. (I'm also teaching my tech people how to use the online databases and which ones do what things...while they teach me how to fine-tune my webpage design, Power Point creations, and other techie endeavors...) Although I can teach Power Point, web design, etc., I'd rather teach the research part to the students and brainstorm with the students and teachers on ways to develop their projects...then I step aside and allow my tech people to teach the students how to work on the tech-end. ************ I'm having similar problems. I'm replacing the Library Media Teacher and the School Tech position is classified part time position. The school tech is used to having full control over the computer lab as last year's teacher wasn't into technology. But I am into technology and the tech is having difficulty sharing "his" lab. The principal met individually with us and then the three of us met together. The principal told me that I was a threat to the school tech and his ego was involved plus the school tech felt he wasn't appreciated for all he has done. Plus, he sees it as "his" lab. He is very territorial. The P felt I was being fair and reasonable. He suggested that I be careful how I talk to him, in order words, placate him to death. There are all kinds of studies that describe Library/Research skill integrated with technology plus there are Media Literacy Standards. You might want to share that information with the tech and maybe she'll become more aware of how much Library Skills overlap with technology. One great study is Dick and Jane Go To The Head Of The Class. http://slj.reviewsnews.com/index.asp?layout=articlePrint&articleID=CA153041&publication=slj Plus, there's the question about how is technology a tool for learning and not an ends or means in itself?... or something like that. I just read an article that kids using technology aren't learning more than those who don't. They only learn more when higher order learning skills are applied to the assignment/project. The computers are just their paper/pencil for presenting and the internet is a research resource when they can't find something in a book. ********** Was the position created by the principal? Was it his idea? If so, he should be the one trying to sort out the duties. I've been retired for three years, but I worked half time in a h.s. and the other half in an elem. There was an aid who was head of the tech dept. at the h.s., believe it or not, and she was excellent. She had all she could do to keep the system running with over 300 computers in both buildings. She was the trouble-shooter for both buildings but spent almost all of her time at the h.s. where there were one or more computers in every room, a small number in the shop, a lab for word processing (once was a typing room.....), two iMac labs, and a small lab off the study hall. The library had about ten computers in it. The aid's office was in the TV lab across from the two Mac labs and just down the hall from the lib. At the elem., each room had two or more computers for students to use plus one for the teacher. Also, there was one computer lat at the elem. At the h.s., there were SEVERAL other teachers (two math teachers, the "typing" teacher, another business teacher who was in charge of the web page classes, the lady who was in charge of the program designed to help the kids who were one step out of the resource room, and me. We never thought of being in competition with each other. Each person had certain specialties and interests, some of which, of course, overlapped, but every one was too busy to worry about their own tech territories and always glad to get help from someone else who knew more about some specific problem and could help solve it. I live in rural Iowa and there were only 250 kids in our high school, so it is a little hard for me to imagine how the situation you've described could have developed. I guess I'd go to the principal (or whoever brought the new techie in) and ask what the perceived need was for a second person. My own personal view would be that I can't see how you can possibly get into each other's way, but since you are, sit down and try to work it out together, possibly with the principal, and see if you can't iron out the conflicts before this year gets off to another bad start. *********** Our tech person is the "wire guy". He's been in the system for centuries (I've only been here 3 years) He came on board in my second year and has been treating this school like his private computer lab. My suggestions (sometimes my mere presence) are treated with total disregard and the higher ups say "Don't make him mad. His wife is one of the superintendent's closest advisors." Like you, I wanted and needed a teammate. I was so disappointed! ************* I feel your pain. My tech person is a paraprofessional who needs power to feel important. We sat down with the principal and created a list of each person's job. We split some things and let her have total control of others. Having it down on paper made a big difference. We even sent the list out to staff in a note called "Whooo should I call?" We put a cute graphic of an owl on it and teachers keep it posted in their classrooms. I hope you can work something out because so much can be accomplished when the tech people and media people work hand in hand. ************ We have had a similar situation in my school for the past couple of years, though it worked out much more comfortably for us. For three years, before I took on the library job, I was the school technology coordinator, which meant that I taught students and teachers to use computers, emphasized the curriculum integration aspect, and did all of the support, purchasing, wiring, etc. Several years ago a new teacher joined our staff who was very tech-savvy; two years ago she became the "computer lab teacher". We had some interesting times at first as we did not always agree as to how things should be done - it was usually a friendly disagreement but got touchy at times. Eventually we sat down with the principal and created job descriptions so we wouldn't step on each other's toes. I did have to give up a bit of the instructional part but since I opened a new library two years ago I don't mind too much.I have continued to do all of the tech support and much of the staff development. We did a little bit of collaboration but to be honest the teacher isn't too creative and I didn't think much of what she was doing so I didn't pursue collaboration too much! The computer teacher has only overstepped her job a couple of times and the principal has been forthright about pulling out the job description when problems arise. I would really suggest that you sit down as a team (remember you are in this together) and write up some guidelines. ************ I have been working with an ITC for a few years now. There is some compromising that needs to be done, as you have found out. In fact our county did a job division study to help out. Ena and I have a good working relationship. She is officially in charge of all computers, networks and etc. I'm in charge of all traditional equipment. There is some overlap with TVs and VCRs, but they are officially mine. We share responsibility of teaching research skills. Generally, if I'm teaching the class, I do the skills. If the classroom teacher is teaching the class, Ena does the skills. We also have some excellent tech classroom teachers and they will teach their own class. Ena is always ready and willing to assistant and advise all teachers, including me. There are some other things, just as the TV show where Ena is the lead and I'm the assistant, backup, or alternate. We have found that the job can be to big for one person and it helps if some things are shared. When working with your ITC and principal be sure that they know you are qualified to assist or share some of the responsibilities, but be cautious of not making the ITC feel as if you are trying to take over or superior. I think negotiating with the three of you is an excellent idea. **************** I have had the exact same problem but fortunately, it has been resolved for the most part. My boss kept telling me there is enough work for everyone. Of course there is! The problem was not being territorial on my part and I still feel twinges when one of the tech people helps a classroom teacher set up a lesson however, I have extended myself enough and know that the teachers do come to me for 'library' stuff. I'm still involved in making all the decisions re computing for the library...and I buy the databases after I've reviewed them and discussed with the teachers....I'm HAPPY to leave the hassle of the network and the repairs to my colleague (whom I trained and recommended for her job!!!!) =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-==-=-=- All LM_NET postings are protected by copyright law. To change your LM_NET status, e-mail to: listserv@listserv.syr.edu In the message write EITHER: 1) SIGNOFF LM_NET 2) SET LM_NET NOMAIL 3) SET LM_NET MAIL 4) SET LM_NET DIGEST * Allow for confirmation. LM_NET Help & Information: http://ericir.syr.edu/lm_net/ Archive: http://askeric.org/Virtual/Listserv_Archives/LM_NET.shtml LM_NET Select/EL-Announce: http://www.cuenet.com/archive/el-announce/ LM_NET Supporters: http://ericir.syr.edu/lm_net/ven.html =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-=-