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Katherine, We have the same issues with kids and their clothing. I have no trouble telling a young lady dressed like a street walker to pull up her pants or pull down her shirt. If the two don't meet, she can get a jacket. If she has no jacket she can find one. We do send them home and all it takes is dragging mothers and fathers out of work one time before they realize that we mean business. As for our male staff, they can call a female staff member if they are uncomfortable. If they stare at these girls, they are called on the carpet so they may as well deal with it. My daughter is 18 and a well endowed size 3. She knows what is appropriate for school and what is appropriate for social activities with her friends. They are not the same. In addition, there is a dress code at her place of employment a chain that serves alcohol. If she went to work inappropriately dressed, she would be sent home. Same rules apply at school (she does not attend my school). She and her friends have a saying when they see someone's thong hanging out "CRACK KILLS" maybe you can try that slogan. Shirley LeClerc, Librarian West Chester East High School 450 Ellis Lane West Chester, PA 19380 =20 -----Original Message----- From: Katherine A. Wright [mailto:WRIGHTK@OFFICE.NORWICHFREEACADEMY.COM] Sent: Friday, April 02, 2004 1:44 PM To: LM_NET@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU Subject: Re: Teacher dress code/student dress code I had to laugh with Pam. I live in Birks and Danskos. I have been wearing them for 30 years, and I have all kinds of fun socks ( I knit my first pair at age 6) and tights that I wear. I almost always wear long dresses or skirts and tops--my daughter describes my style as cool, funky, purple hippy. (the kids call me the purple lady ) There are times my superintendant (she of the power suit and 3" heels) looks at my feet and shakes her head. However, as I once explained to her between running up and down the stairs to the mezzanine level, crawling around under desks to check computer wires, etc. etc., short, fitted items and heels would result in some type of disability claim. :-). The general mode of the dress at this school is more formal than the previous school I was at. We dress down on Fridays (with some of the faculty you can't tell, as they always wear the same thing.) paying $2.00 to the "Club of the Week". Younger teachers are much more casual, in my eyes sometimes too casual. I know some of them have been spoken too. We can dress comfortably and be approachable and professional all at the same time. I think it is important to show students that we take our jobs seriously and set an example of appropriate dress to them. I am sure we are not the only school dealing with the "Brittany Spears syndrome". A lot of my male colleagues are really unsure how to deal with telling a young lady that he's seeing way more than he wants to--with 4-10 inches of skin showing between top and bottom, especially lovely when large tattoos adorn the lower back (against dress code policy, but how do you send home 1,000 kids?). I usually say something to the effect of Vicky's Not a Secret. But the men are hesitant as they are concerned about being accused of sexual harassment--"what were you doing staring at my behind?" As the warmer weather returns, the situation worsens. We send kids to the office when they aren't covered, but most of the parents think we are being too rigid. So many of the teachers have given up.Help? Any ideas? Katherine A. Wright Library Media Specialist Edwin H. 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