Someone asked for a HIT of the suggestions I received, so here it is! Ho=
pe it helps some of you, too.
Holly :)
That's supposed to be one of the nice features of dreamweaver. It will w=
ork with other pages. I had started our web site with Adobe PageMill and=
then went to Dreamweaver without a hitch.
*--------------------------
I have used Front Pages for years for my web pages. Plus I have taught it=
to the World History classes. This year we switched to Dreamweaver for t=
he classes. It is hard at first but does have many advantages. If they wa=
nt you to use Dreamweaver, then don't do it first in Front Page and then =
finish in Dreamweaver, you will never learn how to do Dreamweaver properl=
y. Force yourself and be proud of yourself for mastering more software.
*------------------------
Hopefully you'll get a 'real' techie to answer it but it's my
understanding that DreamWeaver was designed for this kind of situation.=20
(It even has settings for "cleaning up" the sometimes bloated code Front
Page uses -- but if you're going to go back and forth, you wouldn't want
to do that since it would just confuse Front Page.) Check your
Dreamweaver "help" -- I'm pretty sure it has specific tips for doing
this. (I think the idea came from Dreamweaver experts designing
websites for Front Page users who would do somethings and then expect
the DreamWeaver guy to do the more sophisticated stuff.)=20
I have not had any trouble pulling up pages I did in Front Page and
working on them in Dreamweaver. I struggle with Front Page, though --
since I learned Dreamweaver first ;)=20
*----------------------------
I don't see that it should be too much of a problem. I wrote all my page=
s in Frontpage Express (which I don't recommend), and now do all my editi=
ng in Dreamweaver. Just be aware that if you take it back to Frontpage a=
fter messing with it in Dreamweaver, some of your code will not work...it=
won't be gone, it just won't work correctly.
If you just can't make it work, the Dreamweaver for Dummies book is excel=
lent. My boyfriend is a very advanced web developer and still turns to t=
hat book to explain things to me.
*----------------------------
Wow, you're the first person I've met who feels that DW is more
difficult than FP.
In any case, it is not a problem to work on pages with different web
editors. You may see some indications of "additional tags" that FP or
DW may insert that the other doesn't automatically insert, but that
won't impact the final product of your page. Just be sure that you keep
your file names straight, and that you preview your final pages in a
browser before finishing them off. =20
And, as always, keep that very important backup copy, just in case!
*---------------------------------
I use both. Frontpage is easier. You just save the entire thing when yo=
u
are finished in either format.
*---------------------
I have tried to do exactly what you are doing except that the webpage
was started with Dreamweaver and I was using Frontpage. The spacings are
not the same and when you edit in one and it actually get online, it
does not look like it did when you were editing it. Anyway, it caused
enough problems that I did not want to work on it anymore so I have the
Webpage students who are working in Dreamweaver do our page again.
*----------------------------
I would, if I were you, learn to use Dreamweaver. It is an amazing
program. That said, you can copy the HTML and other code from your
Frontpage created page and paste it into Dreamweaver to work on it there.
Just click on the button that looks like this: <> and highlight the code
that is already there, press delete to get rid of it, and then paste the
code into the window. Be sure that you have all pages, images etc. saved
in the same folder first.
*--------------------
Yes you can do that. Just name the dreamweaver copy something else
while you work on it, and then when it is done, save it with the name of
the frontpage one.
I've done this. It works fine.
*------------------------
FrontPage creates some very un-compliant code when making the HTML for th=
e
web page, which is probably why they want you to use DreamWeaver. But unl=
ess
you're using all sorts of tables (which is where I found the most difficu=
lty
in fixing FP code) there shouldn't be any problem in having some pages
created with FP and some with DW.
Don't remember if I told you about Ed2Go -- it's on the web at ed2go.com =
You
can see if any school (adult school, community college, etc.) in your are=
a
manages Ed2Go classes. I found the DreamWeaver class very worth-while. Wh=
ile
most teachers design the lessons around a sample site, they seem to be op=
en
to your doing your own site work for the class.
*-------------------------
I'm working on the same thing. Student computers are FrontPage, I use DW.
Kid pages are pretty simple so may not be representative of work you are
doing. =20
Try this: Create in FP and publish (send to server). Then in DW, create =
the
site connection to server, using a different folder on your computer and
download (get). If something screws up, you have orig files backed up. I=
f
it works ok, then you can edit the DW site info to utilize same folder.
Weirdly, I use DW so much that Frontpage frustrates me.... Just a matter=
of
remembering how to get to stuff and what to click on probably. And the ki=
ds
freak out looking at DW......
The files shouldn't change or be incapable of opening in either program.
There are the Frontpage server extensions that are needed for some extend=
ed
features, so there is the possibility that a page will not show everythin=
g
in DW. But then, it wouldn't work on Internet either if your server doesn=
't
have them. There is a CleanUp HTML command on DW that will identify
non-standard and extraneous code markup. Handy when teachers send word do=
cs
for webpage.
*-------------------------------
it is all html, remember...
you can create your pages in fp...
switch to the html view... copy the html to the clipboard...
open the dw and paste it in there... then, run it and see what happens.
I believe it might just ignore the fp specific stuff and
only run the html that it understands...
if it gives error messages; it should indicate where the problem lies;
go to that spot and remove the troubling pieces...
Have fun... and let me know how I did with this advice... =20
*-----------------------------
It doesn't matter which you use--they all add HTML tags to your text=20
content or the graphics you choose. You could even use Notepad and=20
write the entire thing that way--before all the GUI apps, that's what=20
all web folks did. Most of the Javascript is also the same, like for=20
hover changes. There are some specialty web components that Frontpage=20
has that are specific to their app, but they can still be read,=20
displayed and changed with Dreamweaver.=20
If you feel more comfortable with Frontpage, keep using it. I still use=20
Netscape Composer for most of my PC work, combined with FrontPage, but=20
use Claris Homepage and BBEdit with the Mac. You may find, however, as=20
you use Dreamweaver that it is actually a little easier in that it isn't=20
so glitchy with tables and the HTML tends to be somewhat cleaner (which=20
causes less confusion for a browser reading it).
In case you're interested, try the HMTL Writers Guild at=20
http://www.hwg.org for online training in Dreamweaver (and many many=20
other web apps). They are fairly inexpensive, especially as a member,=20
and they are taught by WWW professionals.
*----------------------------
Holly Tesar, Librarian
Excelsior Springs High School
612 Tiger Drive
Excelsior Springs, MO 64024
816-630-9210
htesar@estigers.k12.mo.us
http://www.exsmo.com/library.html
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