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I feel as if I'm the only one who didn't know how to do this. ;-) Lots of responses came in, most describing how to use Draw in Word, right-clicking on the circles, choosing 'no fill' to make both circles visible. Others suggested KidPix, Inspiration, and the like, although I believe the task is easier with newer versions of those programs. Inspiration 6 doesn't seem to have a place for making Venns. Word 97 doesn't either, though Draw is fine. An interesting website came from two people: http://www.venndiagram.com. Another site is http://www.educationworld.com/tools_templates/index.shtml#graphicOrganizers. Several kind souls also attached examples or templates. Thanks to everyone who replied with helpful suggestions. I'll keep it as simple as possible for my grades 4-5, and we'll get the job done. Kathy Hintz PS: Doesn't anybody do Windows? I still need to know what settings will make the log-in window disappear automatically after a few seconds. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Kathy Hintz, certified SLMS, but now just "the computer teacher" St. Patrick's Academy K-8 Catskill, NY kmhintz@yahoo.com --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Get better spam protection with Yahoo! Mail =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-==-=-=- All LM_NET postings are protected by copyright law. To change your LM_NET status, e-mail to: listserv@listserv.syr.edu In the message write EITHER: 1) SIGNOFF LM_NET 2) SET LM_NET NOMAIL 3) SET LM_NET MAIL 4) SET LM_NET DIGEST * Allow for confirmation. LM_NET Help & Information: http://www.eduref.org/lm_net/ Archive: http://www.eduref.org/lm_net/archive/ EL-Announce with LM_NET Select: http://elann.biglist.com/el-announce/ LM_NET Supporters: http://www.eduref.org/lm_net/ven.html =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-=-