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The 'hilite too much' syndrome is a symptom of not getting it. But can also be because they were introduced to notetaking as 'write information on a 3x5 card'. You know, where the girls win because they can write smaller.... Try: 1: reiterating that being a bit 'lazy' is good. You want as little as makes sense for the info (i.e., if looking up population, all they need is the number and word population, not the whole sentence) But the number alone is going to require re-reading the whole sentence to find out why you hilited the number last week (sorta like the phone number on the postit with no name) 2: Make a golf game of it. Who scores the lowest (number of words hilighted) wins (double check that there are enough) I do a 'who got 3 facts out of this para?' '10 words? 9, 8,etc.... Then winner gets to hilite on overhead. Also, notes are pretty abstract for 4 grade. Need lots of concrete examples. When I did elem (2 years ago) I used non-fiction picture books (Aliki's Medieval Feast was a fav.), copied pages on trans and paper for kids, walked through 3-4 pages in 20 minutes. (good also to note captions and pictures contain info) Robert Eiffert, Librarian Pacific Middle School Evergreen SD 114 Vancouver WA beiffert@egreen.wednet.edu pac.egreen.wednet.edu/library robert@crypticmachinery.net -----Original Message----- From: School Library Media & Network Communications [mailto:LM_NET@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU] On Behalf Of Celeste Riter Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2004 9:36 AM To: LM_NET@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU Subject: Re: Note-Taking Lesson Plans A Happy,Healthy and Wise New Year to All!! Please share any successful lessons on note-taking that you may have used. I am working with a fourth grade of mixed ability. The first lesson left me uncertain as to how much the "low middle" and "low" kids really got out of it. The lesson was on highlighting the important information. Some colored way too much ( most of the page). The classroom teacher asked me to teach this skill and I feel it is very important so any advice will be appreciated. I wonder if I need a different approach to get across the basics of how to take notes. Thanks Celelste Ritter, LMS Celeste116@juno.com =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-==-=-=- All LM_NET postings are protected by copyright law. To change your LM_NET status, e-mail to: listserv@listserv.syr.edu In the message write EITHER: 1) SIGNOFF LM_NET 2) SET LM_NET NOMAIL 3) SET LM_NET MAIL 4) SET LM_NET DIGEST * Allow for confirmation. LM_NET Help & Information: http://www.eduref.org/lm_net/ Archive: http://www.eduref.org/lm_net/archive/ EL-Announce with LM_NET Select: http://elann.biglist.com/el-announce/ LM_NET Supporters: http://www.eduref.org/lm_net/ven.html =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-=- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-==-=-=- All LM_NET postings are protected by copyright law. To change your LM_NET status, e-mail to: listserv@listserv.syr.edu In the message write EITHER: 1) SIGNOFF LM_NET 2) SET LM_NET NOMAIL 3) SET LM_NET MAIL 4) SET LM_NET DIGEST * Allow for confirmation. LM_NET Help & Information: http://www.eduref.org/lm_net/ Archive: http://www.eduref.org/lm_net/archive/ EL-Announce with LM_NET Select: http://elann.biglist.com/el-announce/ LM_NET Supporters: http://www.eduref.org/lm_net/ven.html =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-=-