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ORIGINAL QUESTION ( THANKS to ALL who replied) Hello: I will be at a renovated elementary school grades k-5 with 12 teachers. Since there are 12 teachers, I will see each class twice totaling 24 classes. During the interview, the time frame suggested for each visit was 40 or 45 minutes. Has anyone worked in a similar situation and can provide some scheduling ideas and suggestions? I have some written out but looking for more. I am looking for workable ways for each of the 2 visits each week. What is the purpose and function of each visit? Activities for each? Should kindergarten's time be 40 minutes or less? reasons for less? (getting your ideas , too; I have some) I am excited and looking forward to my new work site ! Thanks to all in advance. I look forward to receiving your ideas. REMINDER: Please..only ideas from library media specialists who are or have worked a schedule whereby each class visited twice, the amount of time for each, and types of activities/purpose/function of and for each OR can suggest. Much appreciated ! Robert Joyce robert@gcronline.com Librarian/Library Media Specialist K-5 Brosville Elementary School Pittsylvania County Virgina I'm in a school similar to yours. We are a K-6 school with 10 classroom teachers plus 2 BD classrooms (behavior disorder classes). I see every class twice a week also, except kindergarten who only comes once a week. Here is how we have it set up: K - once for 30 min. 1-3 - twice a week for 35 min. each time 4-6 - twice a week for 40 min. each time What I do for those classes.................one of the times that I see a class is devoted to reading aloud, checking out books, talking about state book award nominees, activities to accompany the story I read, etc. The other time that I see each class is usually spent in the computer lab working on technology skills, research skills, etc. We use Inspiration software and talk about making an outline, we conduct research online, learn how to make a bibliography, etc. Sometimes on that day, I take them to the classroom area of the library and we work on library skills, reference skills, or do research using (gasp!) books and encyclopedias. For kindergarten, we mostly work on reading aloud, nursery rhymes, checking out books, etc. Toward the end of the year, I do try to take them in the computer lab for about 10 min. during each class. We don't get much accomplished but it's an introduction for them and they love it. --------------------------- 40 minutes twice a week sounds like an incredible amount of library time to me! We see our kids once a week for 30 minutes -- however, I still see 30 groups a week that way, which fills up the schedule. When do they have time to accomplish the curriculum? Our minimum times for curriculum would not allow such a high amount of time in the LC. However, to answer some of your other questions -- if I had that much time with the kids, I would arrange the schedule so that one of the visits was spent on information skills, and the other was spent on something generated in the classroom, but worked on in the LC. For example, the first weekly visit would be a story session, a library skills session, etc. The second visit would be research time for a classroom assigned project. Or, better perhaps, the first 20 minutes spent on a skill or a story session, with the second 20 minutes devoted to research or classroom developed projects. 40 minutes in the LC is also too long for kindergarten, whose attention span is really short. If the K's were in the LC that long, I would think you would have to move them through at least three different activities of 10 to 15 minutes each, i.e. a story session, a library skills game (putting themselves in alphabetical order, etc) and some finger poems, plays, craft project, etc --------------------------------- teach in a k-4 school and I see just my kindergarten classes for 45 minutes once a week. The other grades I see for 20 minutes. I have 23 classes in my school. In that 20 mins I do a mini lesson or booktalks or just read a story then they check out books. For kindergarten, I read a story and do a story related project. Then they check out books. I usually teach some library related skill also. Grades 1-4 also have a flexible schedule where teachers schedule research classes or curriculum integrated lessons as needed. I end up doing anywhere from 23-30 classes a week. ------------------------------ I don't know how much help this information will be but I am also at a K-5 school with 12 teachers. The library media schedule for my school has involved the K-2 classes coming 2x/week, once for 30 minutes of instruction and once for 15 minutes to check-out. When I moved into the library last year the 30 minute time gradually grew to a 45 minute time for most K-2 classes since I encouraged the classes to bring their books for checkout during their instructional time too. I see the 3-5 classes twice a week for 45 minutes. One time is considered "instructional" and the other is for "check-out." Since students in grades 2-5 can actually check-out on their own at any time during the day, often the 45 minute "check-out" time became "run-over" time where we continued working on projects. As far as my principal was concerned all she asked of the 45 minute check-out time was that the students be allowed to check-out and read. It was designed more or less as just a break for the 3-5 teachers. -------------------------------------------- I have 15 teachers whose classes I see twice a week plus 2 spec ed classes once a week. Each class comes for 35 minutes. Do the math and you see I have basically no free time for admin purposes. Sorry, but since we are prep time for the classroom teacher the amount of time allotted for K classes is non-negotiable. The first time each class comes is for checkout. Students check out a regular book and an AR book (K classes only check out one regular). Sometimes I read a book to them and sometimes I let them look at preselected books/magazines on the tables. The second visit is used for skills/enrichment. These lessons are usually centered around a theme, author, or SOL (content area objective). --------------------------------------- These are just suggestions, but developmentally, you do not want kinders for more than 30 minutes at a time- 10-15 min. for story & 15 minutes for book checkout. For your 1st - 5th grades- you could do 30 minutes of instruction (check at your district level for K - 5th grade guidelines for Library Media Instruction) and 15 minutes of checkout. Perhaps for the 2nd class of the week, you could do 30-45 minutes of computer instruction (if that is a possibility at your school). I have two schools (500 kids at one site, 90 at the other site), and they get 30 minutes of instruction 1 x a week. At my school where I do a 45 minute planning time, I teach for 30 minutes and do checkout the other 15 minutes. At my smaller school, I teach for the 30 minute planning time, and the teacher comes back to assist with me with book checkout (as I don't have a 6 hour assistant at the smaller school). --------------------------------- I'm a librarian for 2 schools. I have a 6 day schedule where I'm at each school for 3 days. At my k-3 it's a fixed schedule for 50 min.I have 15 classes but my assistant sees the 3 Kindergarten on the days I'm not there. So I really only have 12. I personally believe that 30 minutes is sufficient for Kindergarten, but as it is, I never release my classes on time anyway. I cover author studies tied in with language arts activities, shelf arrangement, book parts and care, note taking even with Kindergarten, Fiction vs. nonfiction and with gr. 2-3 I also do dictionaries, and reference and with the 3rd grade I also do the Dewey Decimal System. I also allow 15 - 20 minutes for book exchange as part of the 50 minute block. At my 4-6 school my schedule is flexible. I'm even busier at this school. I collaborate on units as well as teach more extensive skills to the 4th grade for a 10 week period. For all classes I tie in Reference, research, on-line resources, dictionaries with whatever unit I'm working on with teachers. I also do genres studies and book talks. I like this schedule because it also allows teachers to plan on using the library for extended periods of time without having to worry about working around a fixed schedule. My library at this school is extra small so more than one thing going on at a time is chaos. My suggestions for you might be to get your principal to agree to one class per week and the rest be for open library so teachers could work collaboratively with you on units and have the experience more meaningful and less skills taught in isolation. Another suggestion might be to have one class be just for skill and the other be for book exchange and silent reading or a time for you to book talk books. -------------------------------------------------------- I am a new media coordinator. I was planning on scheduling my kindergarteners for 30 minutes. Why? Having previously taught kindergarten, they have a hard time sitting still for periods longer than 30 minutes at a time. 15 minutes is a stretch, but they can manage 30 for library time. I'm still debating on 1st grade - whether to have them for 30 minutes or 45-50 minutes. Grades 2-5 will probably be for 50 minutes - 1 class period. Since I do not have a technology assistant, I will be teaching computer literacy skills as well as information skills. ----------------------------------------------- I work in a PreK-5 school and have a fixed schedule. I see PreK-3 for 30 minutes, 4 for 40, and 5 for 45. I could probably use 45 with 3rd, but for the PreK-2, 30 minutes is plenty. There's no way you should see Kindergarten for 45 minutes. It's December before they can pay attention for more than 20 minutes at a time. Make sure you get Kindergarten scheduled first thing in the morning. I do, I've had make up times in the afternoon with them and it isn't worth the trouble. The little guys are zonked by then. I have over 700 students, so I see them on a six day rotation. It's really hard to keep lessons coherent over that span. Twice a week sounds great. My only other advice is don't forget to read to the kids. Kids just aren't read to enough today and it is a valid piece of instruction. You can do mini-lessons around a story and keep them entertained and wanting to come to the library. ------------------------------------- for 40 minutes a class. That way, you can have some open time each day for addditional research/instruction ... You can do a book club during school hours -- that would be great for your gifted kids who do not enjoy that much time with one specialist. Also, you could do a boys reading club -- and do fun books like NASCAR, sports, adventure, etc. ------------------------------------- When I had two class periods I used 1 for lessons, skills, stories, etc. The second because Book Exchange and if needed a time to finish work from the first class, reinforce skills, etc. This always worked great. If you find the time is too long you may want to include a quick game, word search. etc. In my media center I have a shelf of educational games, puzzles, etc. for students to use after they have checked out their books. This includes chess, checkers, connect four, guess who, matching games, dominoes, geosafari, and both large and small puzzles. I allow the larger ones to stay out on a preselected table for everyone to work on. I also allow computer use during this time. I also have a table with markers, stamps and stamp pads, blank paper, blank paper cut in sizes for bookmarks, cards, etc. The kids love these items and I usually do not have to deal with problems and students putting off getting a book. The rule is you check out your materials and then you can use the items. Students who do not return their books must wait until 10 students have checked out books before they can use the activities. As for kindergarten, I have never had them for more than 30 minutes. I feel that is long enough for their attention span. It is long enough for a story and follow-up, or for book exchange. If it is any longer you just find yourself trying to keep their attention and at that point the behavior tends to go too. I don't know if there is any study or anything about the 30 minutes, but it is the same for all of the special area teachers in my district. ----------------------------------- Where possible I would booktalk and allow time for checkout on each visit. With 2 visits per week you will have time for carry over activities. Such as if you connect an art idea to a book and there is not enough time to finish in the first lesson. I think this will take some time to learn just how much gets done and how much might get carried over to the second lesson. I have been using 40 minute lesson times for the last 2 years. I usually spend part of the time introducing the lesson, allowing for application or practice and book checkout. Once the books are selected the students return to the tables for quiet reading. K classes come for 20 minutes and they also checkout books after the story is read. If I had more time with them I would be looking for retellings/ act out the story and other ideas to make the time meaningful. This sounds like a rich time for you. You could even read short novels etc to the older kids. Children love being read to and it just does not happen at home or at school as much as it used to. ----------------------------------------------- WOW! Only 12 teachers. That would be a dream compared to my 42 :) I've been in a situation like that, but I can try and give suggestions :) In my little experience, I have found that 30 minutes is about tops for Kindergarteners (even 1st graders at times). Most teachers have told me that a little one's attention span is only good for about 20 minutes anyway. I would suggest some sort of an activity to coincide with the book being read. I don't know what kind of supply budget you would be getting, but at times a nice arts and crafty project can keep a little one interest for the extra time. I know due to my supply budget that a lot of my activities lean toward the paper and crayons, but I try to get a few crafty projects in a year. You could also focus the 2nd class of the week on booktalks. You could start out doing the booktalks at the beginning of the year and then gradually turn it over to the students. Have them talk up the books they are reading. Do mini scavenger hunts in the media center or on the internet to teach information literacy skills. There are several books out through Upstart catalog and scholastic that have ready made searches, so half the work is done for us, which leaves us the time to focus on getting the kids ready for these mini scavenger hunts. With being able to see the kids 2x a week I would think there would be a greater possibility of doing projects that fit right in with whatever is being taught in the classrooms. I don't know if the teachers will be staying with you or not during this time. ----------------------------------- have twice as many classes (k-4 - 26 classes) but only see them once each week. K is 30 minutes and the others are 45. K just doesn't have the attention span for any longer. The time they need for checking out books is much less as most of them are less discriminate in their selection than older children and they usually can only handle 1 look through the book afterwards. They can only sit still and attentive for a small amount of time...it does get better as the year progresses, but even beginning 1st graders have difficulty with the 45 minutes. ' With the older kids in particular you can really get into doing some research projects. Set up some long projects in conjunction with what is going on in the classroom. I assume that you are prep time so you will not get much assistance from the classroom teachers, but you can at least do some cooperative projects that complement the classroom. I have done a multi-week project with the 4th graders on US statehood where they created timelines using adding machine tape. They were given a list of the states in alphabetical order and had to put them in chronological order to make the timeline. They then had to graph how many states got statehood during each given time period and then color a map accordingly. It was pretty instruction for the growth of the US. THis would also work in 5th grade. I also have done a 50 State Quarter project, examining the quarters that are out and then since the quarter for Washington State hasn't been designed yet, they followed the rules from the Mint and designed quarters. There are great lesson plans at the US Mint web site for the quarters. I got the ideas for both of these projects there. For the younger grades I do a combination of stories and activities. One of them was a series on the Arthur books by Marc Brown. I read a number of them over several weeks and we talked about how the characters changed in appearance and how Arthur grew up and settled in 3rd grade. There are lots of materials out there for Arthur, including one on how to draw Arthur. They really liked that. This was 2nd grade. Whatever you do, read to the kids, particularly the younger ones but also sneak in those library skills, particularly location skills. Make it fun for them to come to the library. It will be hard since you will have 12 different lessons to plan each week ... make sure that your staff knows this!!! --- but try to set the lessons up so that they complement each other or extend from the first lesson to the second. I would designate one of the days as book exchange day and have the major checkout then. Plan for them to need 15-20 minutes to checkout and read (for the older kids) on one day and then on the other day, have them bring a book they are reading and give them time to read while those who have finished what they reading or forgot their books have a short time for checking out. Plan the lessons accordingly. This will work with 3rd - 5th...any younger and they usually don't have enough reading skills to keep them occupied for that amount of time. If you are doing AR you can incorporate that into some of the time also. Another thought...are you computer savvy? Do you have access to a lab? The second lesson could be a computer class! I would love to be able to do that and actually have the kids using the computers as a tool and not just for games! -------------------------------------- kinders need to move after 15 minutes perhaps a three part activity with booktalk as they return their books one at a time, then part 2 with students moving around selecting books and then a short story aloud or a flannel board or cut and paste activity as you read. -------------------------------------- --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Address AutoComplete - You start. We finish. -------------------------------------------------------------------- All LM_NET postings are protected by copyright law. 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