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It is more than the idea that students bring more than decoding. My experience is that decoding *is* a huge deal -- I see too many HS & college students daily who don't bring decoding, so the other stuff they bring doesn't get developed. If you give that as the reason Lexiles have limited value, a person who puts more importance on decoding may question that opinion of Lexile. At the decoding level, which is more difficult: chasm or unimportant? phlegm or incomplete? Then, on top of that, there are all the vocabulary, familiarity, complexity, writing style & structure, and assorted other readability issues that aren't even touched... but even if someone believes that The Issue is Decoding, they should be informed that Lexile doesn't address that issue well. It's an interesting piece of information -- but attributing importance to it would IMHO be in error. Susan Jones Academic Development Specialist Academic Development Center Parkland College Champaign, IL 61821 sujones@parkland.edu Webmastress, http://www.resourceroom.net >>> Connie <cowilli@PACBELL.NET> 07/02/04 12:59 AM >>> Beverly, Personally I think that all lexile numbers are inappropriate. [Check to see the Lexile level of East of Eden or Grapes of Wrath among others ] . Lexiling a book means the Metametrics has used their high powered computer to count syllables- no content is taken into consideration. I'm not sure why you're doing this, but you need to let the teachers and parents know that this system is only a guideline for the complexity of the words and sentences written in the book. Given that kids bring more to their reading than just decoding skills, I should hope that other considerations are given in guiding children in their reading choices. Don't let anyone [!] use these lexiles as ways to stop kids from choosing books they might like to read. Sorry for the rant, but Lexiles get me going.... Connie -- Connie Williams Library Media Teacher Kenilworth Junior High School 998 E. Washington Street Petaluma, CA 94952 707-778-4719 707-778-4797 [fax] cwilliams@pcsedmail.org cowilli@pacbell.net On 6/29/04 2:47 PM, "Bev Nelson" <bev.nelson@SPRINGGROVE.K12.MN.US> wrote: > I am leveling my collection with lexile numbers. I am using > lexile.com as the site where I locate lexile numbers for titles. > Occasionally I find that a lexile range is given for a book that has > appeal for older students. For example, Are You there God? It's me, > Margaret has a lexile number of 590 which is the second, third grade > level on a lexile chart. Has anyone else found lexile numbers which > sometimes seem inappropriate? Thanks! > -- > Beverly Nelson > Media Generalist > Spring Grove Public School > 113 2nd Ave NW > Spring Grove, Minnesota 55974 > -------------------------------------------------------------------- All LM_NET postings are protected by copyright law. To change your LM_NET status, e-mail to: listserv@listserv.syr.edu In the message write EITHER: 1) SIGNOFF LM_NET 2) SET LM_NET NOMAIL 3) SET LM_NET MAIL 4) SET LM_NET DIGEST * Allow for confirmation. LM_NET Help & Information: http://www.eduref.org/lm_net/ Archive: http://www.eduref.org/lm_net/archive/ EL-Announce with LM_NET Select: http://elann.biglist.com/el-announce/ LM_NET Supporters: http://www.eduref.org/lm_net/ven.html -------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------- All LM_NET postings are protected by copyright law. To change your LM_NET status, e-mail to: listserv@listserv.syr.edu In the message write EITHER: 1) SIGNOFF LM_NET 2) SET LM_NET NOMAIL 3) SET LM_NET MAIL 4) SET LM_NET DIGEST * Allow for confirmation. LM_NET Help & Information: http://www.eduref.org/lm_net/ Archive: http://www.eduref.org/lm_net/archive/ EL-Announce with LM_NET Select: http://elann.biglist.com/el-announce/ LM_NET Supporters: http://www.eduref.org/lm_net/ven.html --------------------------------------------------------------------