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Lexiles, reading levels, etc. are all tools - dependence on any one system is a problem - Limiting any student's ability to read what they would like whether it be lexiles, reading levels, etc. is very upsetting - I have heard of media specialists rearranign their book collections by lexiles --- If anyone thinks this type of action will create lifelong readers, foster a love of reading, and encourage students to be supporters of libraries and reading when they graduate -- I think they are sadly mistaken. Paula --- Susan Jones <sujones@PARKLAND.EDU> wrote: > It is more than the idea that students bring more > than decoding. My > experience is that decoding *is* a huge deal -- I > see too many HS & > college students daily who don't bring decoding, so > the other stuff they > bring doesn't get developed. If you give that as > the reason Lexiles > have limited value, a person who puts more > importance on decoding may > question that opinion of Lexile. > > At the decoding level, which is more difficult: > chasm or unimportant? > phlegm or incomplete? > > Then, on top of that, there are all the vocabulary, > familiarity, > complexity, writing style & structure, and assorted > other readability > issues that aren't even touched... but even if > someone believes that > The Issue is Decoding, they should be informed that > Lexile doesn't > address that issue well. > > It's an interesting piece of information -- but > attributing importance > to it would IMHO be in error. > > Susan Jones > Academic Development Specialist > Academic Development Center > Parkland College > Champaign, IL 61821 > sujones@parkland.edu > Webmastress, > http://www.resourceroom.net > >>> Connie <cowilli@PACBELL.NET> 07/02/04 12:59 AM > >>> > Beverly, > Personally I think that all lexile numbers are > inappropriate. [Check to > see > the Lexile level of East of Eden or Grapes of Wrath > among others ] . > Lexiling a book means the Metametrics has used their > high powered > computer > to count syllables- no content is taken into > consideration. I'm not sure > why > you're doing this, but you need to let the teachers > and parents know > that > this system is only a guideline for the complexity > of the words and > sentences written in the book. Given that kids bring > more to their > reading > than just decoding skills, I should hope that other > considerations are > given > in guiding children in their reading choices. Don't > let anyone [!] use > these > lexiles as ways to stop kids from choosing books > they might like to > read. > Sorry for the rant, but Lexiles get me going.... > Connie > > > -- > Connie Williams > Library Media Teacher > Kenilworth Junior High School > 998 E. Washington Street > Petaluma, CA 94952 > 707-778-4719 > 707-778-4797 [fax] > cwilliams@pcsedmail.org > cowilli@pacbell.net > > > On 6/29/04 2:47 PM, "Bev Nelson" > <bev.nelson@SPRINGGROVE.K12.MN.US> > wrote: > > > I am leveling my collection with lexile numbers. > I am using > > lexile.com as the site where I locate lexile > numbers for titles. > > Occasionally I find that a lexile range is given > for a book that has > > appeal for older students. For example, Are You > there God? It's me, > > Margaret has a lexile number of 590 which is the > second, third grade > > level on a lexile chart. Has anyone else found > lexile numbers which > > sometimes seem inappropriate? Thanks! > > -- > > Beverly Nelson > > Media Generalist > > Spring Grove Public School > > 113 2nd Ave NW > > Spring Grove, Minnesota 55974 > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > All LM_NET postings are protected by copyright law. > To change your LM_NET status, e-mail to: > listserv@listserv.syr.edu > In the message write EITHER: 1) SIGNOFF LM_NET 2) > SET LM_NET NOMAIL > 3) SET LM_NET MAIL 4) SET LM_NET DIGEST * Allow > for confirmation. > LM_NET Help & Information: > http://www.eduref.org/lm_net/ > Archive: http://www.eduref.org/lm_net/archive/ > EL-Announce with LM_NET Select: > http://elann.biglist.com/el-announce/ > LM_NET Supporters: > http://www.eduref.org/lm_net/ven.html > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > All LM_NET postings are protected by copyright law. > To change your LM_NET status, e-mail to: > listserv@listserv.syr.edu > In the message write EITHER: 1) SIGNOFF LM_NET 2) > SET LM_NET NOMAIL > 3) SET LM_NET MAIL 4) SET LM_NET DIGEST * Allow > for confirmation. > LM_NET Help & Information: > http://www.eduref.org/lm_net/ > Archive: http://www.eduref.org/lm_net/archive/ > EL-Announce with LM_NET Select: > http://elann.biglist.com/el-announce/ > LM_NET Supporters: > http://www.eduref.org/lm_net/ven.html > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > ===== Paula Yohe Director Of Technology/Library Media Center Dillon School District Two 405 West Washington Street Dillon, SC 29536 Phone: 843-841-3604 Fax:843-774-1214 paula_yohe@yahoo.com __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? 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