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Thank you Barbara.  Let us not forget the reason for the assignment.  This is
not a doctoral dissertation.  How long will ANY resource from the internet be
available at the indicated URL?  The problems with ERIC and other databases show
that URL's even for distinguished sites can be changed.  The citation in an
elementary report is only going to be relevant and needed for the time
surrounding the production of the report. An assignment like this in the early
elementary grades does not need to be in APA or any other standard format.  Keep
citations simple in the early years and then add details later.
Dennis Hollingsead
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Barbara Braxton wrote:

> As the devil's advocate, isn't there room for some flexibility here?
> Sometimes I think we get altogether too serious about the side play of the
> bibliography and forget about the main game which is the assignment.
>
> Look at your students - is every one of them going to go to university which
> is one of the few places in real life where bibliographies are commonly
> used?  If so, maybe you do need to dot the i's and cross the t's but if they
> are your average run-of-the-mill kids with a million destinations to visit,
> why not accept the fact that at least they demonstrating that they know
> about plagiarism through acknowledging the source of their information, and
> if a tiny URL is it, then that's cool.
>
> Think about the lifelong learning here - in five years time what do you
> want/ expect students to know about bibliographies? That is what should
> guide your teaching, and while it is right that they need to follow one form
> or another for standardisation purposes, don't tear your hair out over
> issues that don't matter in the big scheme of things..
>
> Barbara
>
> Barbara Braxton
> Teacher-Librarian
> Palmerston District Primary School
> PALMERSTON ACT 2913
> AUSTRALIA
>
> T. 61 2 6205 6162
> F. 61 2 6205 7242
> E. barbara@austarmetro.com.au
> W. http://www.palmdps.act.edu.au
>

Dennis Hollingsead
Administrative Assistant to VP for Academic Administration
Andrews University
Berrien Springs, MI 49104
269-471-3404
Graduate Student
Minnesota State University, Mankato
hollings@andrews.edu

"The man who doesn't read good books has no advantage over the man who can't
read them."
Mark Twain

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