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CleanFilms, Inc. states on their web site that they are a "cooperative rental club", and that you must join the club to rent movies. They claim that they maintain a 1:1 ratio of purchased videos to their editied copies. Since you must join the club, if one of the studios or directors decided to take CleanFilms to court over all this, it well could be that all members could be made part of the suit. Just a thought. I'm no lawyer, but it strikes me in reading through their site that all of the text concerning the legality of their editing movies deals with their *rental* copies. But they also offer edited movies for *sale*; the fact that they are buying a dvd, editing it and selling the edited copy to you only (then buying another copy, editing it, and selling that editid copy to another person, etc.) does not seem to me to avoid copyright issues. They state that their 'service' is just like your using the fast forward or mute buttons on your remote control. The central difference here is that you are NOT doing this for yourself in your home on the fly, but paying a third party to make a permanent alteration in the copyrighted item. My thirty-five cents worth (well, the rates have gone up! <G> ) Mark Williams Consulting Librarian Professional Services for Conferences, Districts, Workshops markwilliams@makaw.net -------------------------------------------------------------------------- "The closest thing you will find to an orderly universe is a good library" -------------------------------------------------------------------- All LM_NET postings are protected by copyright law. To change your LM_NET status, e-mail to: listserv@listserv.syr.edu In the message write EITHER: 1) SIGNOFF LM_NET 2) SET LM_NET NOMAIL 3) SET LM_NET MAIL 4) SET LM_NET DIGEST * Allow for confirmation. LM_NET Help & Information: http://www.eduref.org/lm_net/ Archive: http://www.eduref.org/lm_net/archive/ EL-Announce with LM_NET Select: http://elann.biglist.com/el-announce/ LM_NET Supporters: http://www.eduref.org/lm_net/ven.html --------------------------------------------------------------------