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Thank you again for all your expertise. I have lots of means and methods to choose. Hopefully, with your suggestions the moves will go smoothly. And thanks for the reminder to check the archives. I am so excited to get a new library away from the cafeteria! Thanks for your help. Jan Davidson Orangefield Jr. High Orangefield TX jdavidson@esc5.net Try to get the kids to check out as many as possible! If you normal limit is 4, let them have 6 or 8. Tell them there will be no late fees or notices until after the move. Remind them to plan ahead as the books will be out of commission for a week. Bring in volunteers and do a massive unpacking. Sounds like a fun challenge! Jan, have you checked the archives? This has come up before, at least the splitting and moving. You might also look for 'library on a cart', which is how others have kept the books flowing to the students during renovations. Since there were a few of these moves last year, you should get some fresh experiences. good luck, Dan Robinson HW Wilson Company Bronx, NY drobinson@hwwilson.com Lots of ideas on this in the archives. Many of which really depends on how far you are moving. Across campus? Use the kids. Grab the PE classes and make a bucket brigade type line. Have to stress that once the students have books in their hands, they need to stay exactly in position. You could probably move a library that size in a day doing this. Across town? I know of one person that used kids again in the bucket brigade style and put them on buses, again only took a day or two. I believe the librarian put the PE teachers in the "old" library, after some explanation of course! She then went to the new library to get the books exactly where she wanted them. Anyway, congrats on a new library!!! Jean R. Jean Gustafson Teacher/Librarian Selah Jr. High Selah, WA 98942 jeangustafson@selah.k12.wa.us http://www.selah.k12.wa.us/JHS/Gustafson/Library.cfm Hire professional movers! Make sure you get ones with library experience. Ours were great. The cost is well worth the time saved, backs strained and aggravation experienced. If the powers that be balk, talk about damage, loss and liability. Jill Brown, LMS Nardin Acadamy Buffalo, NY buflib@yahoo.com Could you go into classes with books on a cart? Rotate the carts? Laura Gould New Brighton Middle School Librarian lgould@nbsd.k12.pa.us "The objective of education is to prepare the young to educate themselves throughout their lives." Robert Maynard Hutchins This is the hit that I posted to the listserv for a Target that I sent on "Moving a Library". Hope that this helps. I would like to thank everyone for their time and I was in such a hurry to post a HIT that I forgot to include the thanks with the HIT. If I included anyone's name or excluded any responses in the HIT, it was completely unintentional and I apologize. Thanks again and here's hoping that I will not be posting a "Moving Horror Stories" next school year. Clete Schirra South Park High School Media Center 2178 Ridge Rd. South Park, PA 15129 schirra@sparksd.org 412-655-0613 voice 412-655-1463 fax Media Specialist/ Network Admin. I've done it twice. We hired a professional book moving company. If you do lots of planning ahead of time, you can get the books moved in a couple of hours. Make sure you know exactly where you want everything before the crew comes to move it. They will unpack it but are not too particular where things go, so you must be on site when it is unloaded and know where everything goes. There should be something in the archives about this. It appeared w/in the past couple of months. I'll be moving my library this summer, too, so the tips were very helpful. -Michele Delmar Brazos Elementary/Orchard, TX This has been discussed before, so you can probably get some help from the archives. One idea that seems to have some merit is to get everyone (that means all teachers, all students, EVERYONE) to check out several books. Doesn't matter whether they are interested in those books or not. Most of the shelves will be bare after a few days, and then you can pack up the rest and move them over a long weekend. When the others are returned they can go on the new shelves. I've not done this, but it seems to me that if you were to do it, it would be best if classes came in in some sort of order and checked out books in an orderly fashion (first class takes 001.001 Aaa, etc.). I'd have the checkout done over a week, and have a week for the returns, too. Should make it fairly easy to move stuff, since every person in the school will be responsible for moving a few books. When I came here in the summer of 1998 we split what was a K-12 library into a K-6 and a 7-12 library. The other librarian and I personally looked at each book, decided what went to her new library (K-6) and what would stay in mine. Those going to hers were put in boxes, moved to the new building, and unpacked when the library was ready. Of course, our combined libraries are smaller than your one! -- David Lininger, kb0zke, MS/HS librarian Hickory County R-1 Schools Urbana, MO 65767 417-993-4226 tss003 at tnp.more.net If the buildings are within walking distance and if they'll let you, you could use students like little trails of ants to carry a few books each. 12,000 books, if you had 500 kids, and if they could carry 4 books per trip, in 6 trips they could have them moved. I've heard of colleges doing this. You'd need lots of adult traffic copis and knowledgeable people at both ends (probably with walkie talkies :o) ) so the books would come off the old shelves in order and go right on the new shelves in order. Kathy Bowman Library Media Teacher Poly High School Riverside, CA 92506 kbowman@poly.rusd.k12.ca.us The actual move could be done in less than a week depending on the help you get. I moved a hs library in a week of 6000 items. Check as many books out to students ahead of time, that way you don't have to move them and they will have books for the week you are closed. good luck don There's no way. Best I can think of is to have teachers pull the materials they think they'll need for the next year and check those out to them. As for the students, maybe you could pull some of the most-needed materials and assign them to a classroom? We renovated last summer, and they just didn't check out until I returned from maternity leave and the library was ready. Louise Colette Leonard Martin J. Gottlieb Day School Library Jacksonville Jewish Center Jacksonville, FL Lleonard@ssdsjax.net To answer your principal: you don't! Moving in October, during school and still allowing students access? I don't see how it can be done. We moved into a new facility this summer. We have 18,000 volumes plus LOTS of other "stuff": videos, hard copies magazines, etc. You will be surprised at how much you really have to deal with when you start packing! We closed the library 2 weeks before school was out in May. We made all materials due the week prior to that so that we could retrieve everything & get it back into the proper place before packing. (Well, we didn't get everything back, of course!) With the help of 3 parent volunteers and 2-3 students from study hall each block, we packed over 1200 boxes. It took us more than the 2 weeks--I would say to allow a good 10-12 days to pack up. Unpacking went a little faster. With about the same number of volunteers, it took us about 8 days to unpack the collection and our office supplies. We did this in August so that we were ready to go (more or less) on opening day. Be aware in any new facility that when "they" say it will be ready on July 1 or October whatever, that it probably will not happen. We were supposed to get into the new library the first part of July and were not able to do so until the second week in August. Lots of setbacks--wrong carpet, electricians not finished, etc. We numbered the boxes consecutively within each collection and color coded the collections with colored post it notes, taped securely. You could just use pieces of colored paper too. So we used pink for fiction--blue for NF, green for videos, etc. Then we color coded the shelves where the boxes were to be delivered so that they were somewhat in the proximity of where they needed to be emptied. It was not as organized as we hoped for the unpacking. Because with that many boxes, it was chaos--and they were not delivered in order-- so we ended up hunting for boxes too. But basically it made it easier to look for the colors for each collection & then deal with the numbers. Also, we put a sheet of paper in each box where the shelf ended, so we would have an idea of how many books to put on a shelf. You do NOT want to have to shift books and rearrange once you have unpacked! It was sooooo much work! I tried to lighten it up for the volunteers, but bottom line is that it is hard, physical, repetitive labor and most people cannot do it hour after hour! Keep this in mind. Good luck! Sue Johnston CHS Library Aberdeen, SD sue.johnston@aberdeen.k12.sd.us Last year, we moved into a new building over the Christmas holidays. I closed the library to pack up the week before Thanksgiving, giving me 4 weeks to pack. I needed every minute of it & then some. I had my aide and 7 student aides to help pack. I also got help from some high school students who came over for volunteer hours after school. We moved about 8,000 volumes and added another 7,000 new books when we arrived in the new building. After the move, we were closed for 4 weeks (1st week of Jan. to mid-Feb.) for unpacking and setting up the library. The 2 weeks before I closed the library, I allowed students to check out 3 books each, which would be due the week we came back (to the new building) after Christmas. With 1200 students, that helped me to move about 2,000 books without packing them. I lost about 15 books in this process (not a bad rate, I thought). I spent a lot of time talking to the students about taking care of the books over the holidays & encouraged them to use this extra long checkout time to choose books that they might not check out during a 2-week checkout period (for example: foreign language books, cookbooks for the holidays, hobby books, and long novels like the Harry Potter books). Because our Language Arts classes incorporate Reading Workshop techniques in their curriculum, most of the Language Arts teachers have large classroom libraries, as well. This helped keep the students in books. For the actual move, we spent the first week and a half shelving books and reading shelves for order. I also continued to weed books as we worked to get the books in exact Dewey order before we started packing. I ordered tons of boxes, and we packed the books in Dewey order, one level deep only, and marked the boxes accordingly. We worked on one aisle at a time (each of my student aides worked on his/her own aisle). When the movers came, they moved the books into the vans in Dewey order as the boxes were marked ( in addition to Dewey order, I marked a unique number on each box, #1, #2. #3, etc.). Before they picked up my books, though, I went to the new building & placed signs corresponding to the unique numbers on my boxes on the shelves (Place boxes #1-5 here, etc.). I kept a tablet on which I wrote what was in EACH numbered box (Dewey order, or contents). My adult aide and I unpacked many of those boxes, but we also had (new) student aides and 2 adult volunteers who helped us. When my new books arrived, the sales reps from the companies from which I ordered came in & helped us process the new books & interfile them with the old books. Although we opened in mid-Feb. we continued to "settle in" for the rest of the year & this year (yesterday, my wall maps were hung up). I continue to move things around and re-organize as I get used to this smaller space, but it has all been worthwhile. I moved from a 2nd floor totally enclosed library (no windows to the outside) to a first floor open space with a 2-story window wall, looking out to the front of our buidling. It is a great space. For me, it's been kind of like having a baby - the enjoyment of being here has made the pain of GETTING here fade somewhat. Good luck with your move. I hope this helps. Patsy McLaughlin Librarian Technology Integration Mentor (TIM) Spring I.S.D. Bammel Middle School 16711 Ella Boulevard Houston, Texas 77090 281-586-2600 patsym@springisd.org www.springisd.org/bms/library "Censorship, like charity, should begin at home; but, unlike charity, it should end there." Clare Booth Luce I don't know if I'll be of much help, but this is what I did eight years ago for a whole semester during a renovation. Our books were stored upon our stage and I had books on carts that I rotated out every week and checked out to students classroom to classroom. If you have a handheld apparatus such as a dolphin with Follett it isn't too bad. I wouldn't want to do it again! Susanne Stutheit Library Media Specialist Birdville Elementary A National Blue Ribbon School 817-547-1500 South Birdville Elementary 817-547-2300 We are facing a similar situation next year at my district. We are planning on using many sets of group novels with students to keep them in reading while we pack up and move the rest of the media center. It is not a perfect solution but better than totally depriving students of books for several weeks. We reasoned that it would be easier to keep track of those during the move. Deborah Maehs, LMS Kingfisher Middle School LMC 600 South 9th Street Kingfisher, OK 73750 maehsville@aol.com I haven't had to move my entire library (14,000 titles), but I have had to move sections. For me, pre-planning was the key. First, I numbered each shelf that had to be moved and then labeled the new shelf where those books would go with the same number. Simple library floor plans would help you visualize where you want everything. You'll need to know the measurements of your current shelves and your new ones (length *and* height - see my explanation below). This part can be done in advance. (In the case of a move like this, I would also make a list of what will go in each box (Box 1 - Fic Aa - Al) just in case a box is misplaced...) I used one box for each shelf of books that had to be relocated, and labeled each box with the corresponding shelf number of the books that would be placed in it. If you have a place to keep the boxes until the move, this can also be done ahead of time. The books were packed, in order, into their respective boxes; and then the boxes were moved next to their new shelves. It worked better for me when *all* the boxes were moved before the books were reshelved; however, you may move faster if you split your helpers, with some packing boxes, some moving them from one location to the other, and some reshelving. As long as the books are packed in order, reshelving goes quickly. (I used boxes saved from our copy paper deliveries. A moving company might have some you could use, too, but they will probably have to be shaped and taped. It would be a good idea to supply each of your helpers with some supplies such as a roll of tape, scissors, a marker, and a notepad/clipboard. If they have a problem with a particular shelf and you're not around (you probably won't be because you'll be busy elsewhere), they can make a note of it and tape the note to the appropriate shelf; you can sort out the problem later. Band-Aids are also helpful for paper cuts from the boxes!) Experience taught me to make sure the new shelves are of the desired height before moving the books. I forgot to do that once and had to reposition several shelves after I'd already started reshelving, which meant not only did I have to remove the books already reshelved on that particular shelf , reposition it, and try again, but also I was faced with a domino effect when I could only place four shelves on one shelf unit instead of the five I'd planned for. I eventually got it to work out without completely redoing the entire nonfiction section, but some of the shelves ended up being packed more closely than I wanted. That one little oversight was very time consuming to correct. You will need help moving the boxes from one place to the other. A small pickup would be great if you decide to split your helpers between tasks. A couple of hand trucks would be quite helpful, too. A team of five or six adults could probably physically move your collection over a weekend (I'd ask for a Friday too, though; you never know what problems might arise!) as long as you've already measured shelves and decided what goes where. Of course, none of this takes into consideration how to move and reposition shelf units that are being reused in the new locations, nor touchy library automation systems... It sounds like a lot of work, but it's not that bad. Really. LOL Good luck! Connie Harrison, Librarian Greenfield School, Wilson, NC charrison7 at nc.rr.com We did that several years ago, but were also combing two collections as we moved them into new facilities. It took us about 2 weeks working long hours. We had 4 librarians and aides working on it. What really helped us was that we wrote on the outside of the boxes the exact range of books that were in the boxes. (Example - Fiction AAR - ART, Nonfiction 200-292.7) Then, the guys that helped us move lined the boxes up along the shelves in the area we thought we would be shelving them. We opened the boxes, took out the books, lined them up on the floor, interfiled the books from the second library and then put them on the shelves. We would take the sections in order - 4 of us opening two boxes each (that had roughly the same range in them, sorting through them (filing in order, then putting them on shelves, then moving on to the next section. It went really quickly! Pamela McGhee Librarian/District Coordinator Brownwood High School Brownwood, TX 76801 325-646-9549 325-643-1965 FAX pamela.mcghee@netxv.net -------------------------------------------------------------------- All LM_NET postings are protected by copyright law. To change your LM_NET status, e-mail to: listserv@listserv.syr.edu In the message write EITHER: 1) SIGNOFF LM_NET 2) SET LM_NET NOMAIL 3) SET LM_NET MAIL 4) SET LM_NET DIGEST * Allow for confirmation. LM_NET Help & Information: http://www.eduref.org/lm_net/ Archive: http://www.eduref.org/lm_net/archive/ EL-Announce with LM_NET Select: http://elann.biglist.com/el-announce/ LM_NET Supporters: http://www.eduref.org/lm_net/ven.html --------------------------------------------------------------------