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I think the altered books are a great use of old books and I'm not appalled at all by the idea. I withdraw books every year that end up in the dumpster, and I would much rather see them used one last time in a classroom before they join a landfill where they will rot away. Books that are falling apart or full of incorrect, outdated information would be great for this kind of project. And I don't see any problem in the students writing, under the title of their art piece, "Created using images from the book(s) ______." I think, with the proper instruction, this activity could be a great lesson in art forms and recycling. Marco Zannier Killough M.S. Librarian 7600 Synott Houston, TX 77083 Marco.Zannier@aliefisd.net -----Original Message----- From: Lesley Johnson [mailto:lcjohnsonvip@TELUS.NET] Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 1:37 PM To: LM_NET@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU Subject: Re: Altered Books Website Subject: Altered Books Website Personally and professionally, I am appalled at this idea, especially using it with students. I was taught, and do feel, that a published book is sacrosanct, not to be harmed or mishandled in any way; to arbitrarily rip out or add in images and words to an already published book, to me, seems to send a very dangerous message about reliable authority and legitimacy of expression. Even for an old and outdated encyclopedia, the idea of changing it into something else smacks of re-writing history and raises all sorts of disturbing issues. I just don't see this as a healthy way to be artistic, because it endorses the altering of another person's completed intellectual property. And what about issues of copyright? Are they saying that because it is "art" and a slightly different medium that it is okay to use other people's words and images, without proper credit? Or do they take the time to credit all of the images and words used? This is also directly related to all the rules and policies Librarians have developed for the discarding of weeded books: it is to be done carefully and authoritatively, and the book is permanently removed from the premises. Librarians do not leave judiciously weeded and discarded books lying around for people to make into something else, like so much knitting wool or fabric scraps. The fact that the "International Society of Altered Book Artists" have to explain themselves on the website probably indicates that others find the idea questionable. This art form seems to be an extension of the decidedly domestic hobby of 'scrapbooking,' in which (usually) women create, on initially blank pages, a collage of words and family photos to preserve events in their own family's personal history - a perfectly legitimate expression. But to extend this hobby into the use and alteration of other people's intellectual property is not legitimate, IMHO. I would never support this use of books with students. Mrs. Lesley Johnson Surrey School District #36 Surrey, British Columbia, Canada HYPERLINK "http://www.sd36.bc.ca/"www.sd36.bc.ca -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.3 - Release Date: 05/04/2005 -------------------------------------------------------------------- All LM_NET postings are protected by copyright law. To change your LM_NET status, e-mail to: listserv@listserv.syr.edu In the message write EITHER: 1) SIGNOFF LM_NET 2) SET LM_NET NOMAIL 3) SET LM_NET MAIL 4) SET LM_NET DIGEST * Allow for confirmation. LM_NET Help & Information: http://www.eduref.org/lm_net/ Archive: http://www.eduref.org/lm_net/archive/ EL-Announce with LM_NET Select: http://elann.biglist.com/el-announce/ LM_NET Supporters: http://www.eduref.org/lm_net/ven.html -------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------- All LM_NET postings are protected by copyright law. To change your LM_NET status, e-mail to: listserv@listserv.syr.edu In the message write EITHER: 1) SIGNOFF LM_NET 2) SET LM_NET NOMAIL 3) SET LM_NET MAIL 4) SET LM_NET DIGEST * Allow for confirmation. LM_NET Help & Information: http://www.eduref.org/lm_net/ Archive: http://www.eduref.org/lm_net/archive/ EL-Announce with LM_NET Select: http://elann.biglist.com/el-announce/ LM_NET Supporters: http://www.eduref.org/lm_net/ven.html --------------------------------------------------------------------