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Dear LM_NET, Thank you so much for all your input! My original question was, do teachers have the right to censor their students' reading. The overwhelming response was no, they do not. A few people did think that Stephen King is too mature for fourth grade. I am planning to call the parent and find out exactly what her feelings are. If the student was correct in saying that her mother does not mind her reading Stephen King, then I will speak with the teacher. I will take it to the principal as a last resort. Replies below: ************************************************************************ Absolutely not! The teacher has overridden the parent's wishes. However, I would never check out a Stephen King book (among others) without written permission from the parent, just to protect myself. When my first graders wanted Goosebumps, I said certainly, but your parents must call me or write permission. I think some documentation is necessary. I would talk with the teacher first then take it to the principal. Good luck! *********************************************************************** Unless the student is being disruptive with the book - passing it around so that students can giggle at the "swears," I think the teacher is very wrong. When I had sixth graders, I had to occasionally "disappear" the fine art books until the kids got over the fact that there were "nekkid" people in some of them, so I know that kids will do that. If, however, the child is simply carrying/reading it, then the fact that the parent okayed the book should be enough to silence the teacher. Perhaps the principal could make it an informal policy to have teachers check with you - or call a parent - if they have concerns and BEFORE they make a big deal in class. I am sure that EVERY student in that class now wants to read those books! *********************************************************************** The teacher can question the student's reading - but it is the parent who has the final word. Since the book came from the library - the proper procedure would be that the teacher would tell you what s/he had done – and one of you would call the parent. It should be a team effort. *********************************************************************** Your situation reminds me of working in a K-9 school and all of the problems involved. I also had teachers with strong opinions and I tried to take that into consideration. The approach was that a student could have one book at home to read (the Stephen King) but one more "approved" or on level to keep at school. That seemed to place the decision of controversial books on the parents where it belonged. I liked it because that eliminated younger kids checking out the "fat" books to impress their friends at school when they found out the book had to be kept at home to read. My older students then had more access to the more mature books. I can't tell you how many times I would preach the "five word rule". Younger students would read a page and put up one finger for every word they didn't know. If they hit five, that would be a book that would have to be read to them at home. When communicating with parents I repeatedly placed the burdon upon censoring their students up to them. Good luck--I hope this helps. This policy kept me on the good side of teachers, parents, and students. ***********************************************************************I I have always let students check out what they want. Like you, if a parent objects, the student can certainly bring the book back and get something else. I think that a parent is the ONLY person who has the right to say what their minor child can or cannot read. I think it is a parent's obligation to monitor what their child is reading the same way they should be monitoring what their child is watching on TV or the video games they are playing. Parents are the ones who knows if their child is ready for certain material. However, I as I have explained to parents, please don't tell me that I am not to let "Suzy" check out books about "whatever" or by a certain author. I cannot keep up with what every student can or cannot read. Thats between them and their child. *********************************************************************** As a certificated principal (but currently looking for a first principalship) and school librarian, I'd say that the teacher has the right to control what a student reads /in the teacher's classroom/ only. If the teacher doesn't want the child to read Stephen King in the classroom, that's fine - the student shouldn't read the books there. The books belong to the school library, and have been properly checked out to the student. The teacher need to either return the books to the student with the instruction that they are to be taken home or return them to the library. If the latter, you should check the books back in, then privately talk to the student about checking them out again and taking them straight home. I'd suggest that you meet with the teacher privately and explain how the library works (books are there to serve ALL students k-12) and that you will honor /parent/ requests to restrict books, but that you cannot control the whole school. Explain that if the teacher doesn't want certain books in the classroom you will remind the students that the teacher doesn't like those books and if the student still wants to check it out the book is to be put in the desk/locker until the end of the day and then taken home. If that doesn't work, you will probably have to get the principal to tell the teacher how it will be. I don't know how much your principal will support you on this, since Stephen King /is/ a bit beyond the typical 4th grader. However, if the parent says it is okay for the child to read the book, that ought to end the discussion about whether the child can check the book out. You, the teacher, and maybe the principal will have to work out a way for the child to check the book out, get it home to read, and return it without offending the teacher too much. If the teacher won't even allow the book in the room then I guess the other option is for the child to be allowed to come to the library or office just before the end of the school day to pick up the book. *********************************************************************** Have a policy where books at certain levels will need a parent permission letter before checking out. Totally covers your butt, allows freedom to choose for students, and LETS the principal and staff know that you are aware of what is age appropriate. I am middle school. I do not have Stephen King in my library. I just say that you can go to public library or wait until HS. I am in a 5-8 school. AND I do have some books marked as YA (for subject) that 5/6 need a call or letter from parents to check out. You might want to rethink your policy of checking out anything. You are going to have a child lie to you one of these days, and the parents will come down on you for it. (Experience talking.) *********************************************************************** The parents are the only ones who should tell their children they cannot read a book. *********************************************************************** It sounds as if you have a most reasonable policy, given the K-12 nature of your school. And you've even got it in writing! That's more than many of us have managed to do. The teacher is out of line. The teacher does have the right, I suppose, to limit what the child reads IN THE CLASSROOM, but that's it. For example, when I taught English, the policy was that I had to approve all Independent Study Unit novels -mostly, frankly, to make sure students were choosing works that were challenging enough. So, if the teacher decides the novels in question are not appropriate for a 4th grade book report, well, that's the teacher's prerogative. But to go beyond that and actually confiscate the books and not allow the child to finish reading them - when her MOTHER has given permission, is simply unacceptable. And that's the approach I would take, if I were you - the child's mother has given permission, and that should be the end of the matter - don't turn this into a professional turf war. It's too likely you'll lose if you're the rookie. *********************************************************************** The teacher could be sued for a violation of the child's constitutional rights. The teacher can direct what the child reads IN CLASS, but the teacher has no control beyond that. The loan of the book is between you and the child, since it came from the library. The parent does not object. There is no valid reason why the teacher should have possession of the books. I would demand that the books be returned to the library, then give the books back to the child. Tell the child that the teacher doesn't want her to read those books in the classroom, but that she may read them in the library or at home (or anywhere else, for that matter). ********************************************************************** I'm certain my opinion will be held by many. The teacher needs to return the books. The teacher does not have the right to usurp the parent's authority unless there is immediate harm to the student. The books are school property loaned to the student. In effect the teacher has stolen school property. I would drop the teacher a note asking for the return of the books. You could do one of three things. 1. Check the books in and allow them to circulate as normal. 2. Return them to the student. 3. Give them to the student's mother. If the mother picks her daughter up from school this might not be difficult. Give the mother a call and explain the situation. State that you respect her right to supervise her daughter's reading and want to make certain that the books are returned. This supports her as a parent and reinforces the freedom to read. *********************************************************************** That's a tough situation, especially for a new librarian. You're right, the teacher should not have the right to confiscate the books. She CAN tell the student not to read them in her classroom, but that's about as far as it should go, especially if the parent has already approved the selections. You are right in taking this to the principal--take it from the angle that you are new, and you don't want to make anyone mad, but you need guidance on the situation, especially since the ALA's Reader's Bill of Rights gives the child the right to read anything. What is the lesson the teacher is modeling for that child...Teacher Knows Best? *********************************************************************** I have been a School Librarian Media Specialist in K-12 Schools and higher Libraries of various grade configurations for over 20 years in 5 different school library settings in Iowa, South Dakota and Connecticut. I have experience being censored and countering censorship by Administrators, Teachers, Staff and Parents. For 5 years I was in a grade 4 through 8 Library which was also a Town Library (in Willington, Connecticut). So, I understand the problems you are facing. You are wise to have moved forward with getting a policy in place. I hope the board approves your policy quickly. In the mean time, you do need to address the situation. But you should also take a little time to step back and take a deep breath and get copies of the School Library Right to Read and other right to read statements. A couple of questions. Did you get the parent's consent in writing for the student whose 4th grade teacher is censoring the students? 1) Teachers and school personnel believe they are acting "in parentus loco" or have the right to represent the parent. 2) Only the parent ultimately has the right to Censor their child. 3) On the other hand, a classroom teacher may choose to pull or limit a student ONLY WHILE IN THEIR CLASSS if what they are reading or doing is DISRUPTIVE or negatively affecting the classroom. 4) Has this student been reading parts of the books out loud or been using readings from the book to upset other students? Many Teachers feel their classroom is their kingdom and they can do anything they like. This is not always a good situation if the teacher uses it to CENSOR based on their own opinions and biases. Especially if the teacher does not recognize the individual students abilities and maturity. I had many 4th and 5th grade students who loved reading the Stephen King Novels and who did so with their parents approval. That school, since it had many adult level books in the Public Library Collection, chose to have a parent sign off form at the very beginning of the year. That released the Library Staff and the teachers from liability with those students. We often have high level readers who compete with their older siblings for reading certain authors or certain books. I am sorry this teacher has chosen to limit the students reading in their class. If your parent did not put their approval in writing, do you have a log or journal for your parent conversation or phone call discussing it and giving their approval? If you do, I would share that documentation with the principal. You might want to contact that parent and ask for a letter giving the parental consent. I sometimes learned to be a bit pro-active. For instance, in that school library, one student requested the Necromonicon. Our Public Library staff was afraid this was a satanic spell book and refused to touch it when it came inter-library loan (we allowed students to request books inter-library loan as long as their parents had signed off that they could read anything). Since this has often been a controversial book, and the public library staff (which did not have a certified MLS Librarian) thought it was evil, I did phone the parent and the parent said their child could read it but they would pick it up and read it with their student. You might want to phone the parent no matter what has gone on just to share that there appears to be a problem and you just wanted to alert the parent in case the student was upset but not sharing with the parent what was going on. You never know but the censoring teacher may be setting up an adversarial relationship and there might end up being other forms of acting out or behavior problems starting up as the student might be angry or upset with the teacher for taking his/her books. Or upset that he will be held accountable for checking out the books. You could share with the parent that you have recently been made aware that the teacher has the student's library books and you will not hold him accountable as long as the teacher has the books. I would say that that teacher does have the right to say that the student can't read the book in their classroom if it disrupts the classroom. But, since the parent already gave consent, unless the student was using the inappropriate language or swears, then the teacher should give the books back to either the student or the Library. You might want to set up a book bag or something so that the student can check out his own leisure reading without the teacher censoring him in the future. I would also hope that you and the principal and the teacher can have a discussion to review the purpose of a school library. Hopefully you can get the teacher to see that in addition to providing materials in the Library to support the curriculum, a library is also supposed to provide leisure reading materials for students. Many students love Stephen King. I myself do not like Horror Fiction yet I wouldn't dream of not having his books as so many students read only because they can read novels like his fiction! As a teacher, I would hope a teacher would encourage reading as long as it isn't harmful. If the teacher feels like this is harmful. Then there is more work to be done. See if you can find out why the teacher feels the book is inappropriate or harmful. Possibly sharing a list of banned books. How does that teacher like ROALD DAHL? Perhaps you could share that some people have tried to ban James and the Giant Peach or Matilda or his poetry because they felt it caused students to be disrespectful. Hopefully she will see that censorship isn't the way to deal with the problem as she must perceive it. Or how does the teacher like Shel Silverstein or Silvester and the Magic Pebble? So many good books end up being censored for silly reasons. (We had some award winners recently be censored because someone didn't like the image on the front cover of a book). Also, does the teacher still have the books? If they do, you could request they be returned to the Library or to the student. If the teacher feels they are justified in pulling or keeping the books. You have your job cut out for you. If the teacher doesn't feel she needs to return the books. Talk to your principal about charging the teacher to replace the books if she refuses to return them (of course add on processing fees so that it will be cheaper for her to return the books than pay for them). Explain that they are library property and intended for Leisure reading and that it is one of the goals or missions of the library to provide leisure student reading outside of the curriculum and that it is perfectly normal for a school library to have these books. Additional resources: The Right To Read: Censorship in the School Library. ERIC Digest. http://www.ericdigests.org/pre-9215/library.htm <http://www.ericdigests.org/pre-9215/library.htm> National Council for Teachers of English: http://www.ncte.org/about/over/positions/level/gen/107616.htm <http://www.ncte.org/about/over/positions/level/gen/107616.htm> The Students' Right to Read (note: this has an interesting form... check it out) http://www.ala.org/Template.cfm?Section=interpretations&Template=/ContentManagement/ContentDisplay.cfm&ContentID=8521 Access to Resources and Services in the School Library Media Program : An Interpretation of the LIBRARY BILL OF RIGHTS -- http://www.ala.org/Template.cfm?Section=interpretations&Template=/ContentManagement/ContentDisplay.cfm&ContentID=8521 <http://www.ala.org/Template.cfm?Section=interpretations&Template=/ContentManagement/ContentDisplay.cfm&ContentID=8521> The Freedom to Read Statement http://www.ala.org/ala/oif/statementspols/ftrstatement/freedomreadstatement.htm <http://www.ala.org/ala/oif/statementspols/ftrstatement/freedomreadstatement.htm> Intellectual Freedom for Young People http://www.ala.org/ala/oif/foryoungpeople/youngpeople.htm <http://www.ala.org/ala/oif/foryoungpeople/youngpeople.htm> Intellectual Freedom Basics -- http://www.ala.org/ala/oif/basics/Default2272.htm ***Intellectual Freedom and Censorship Q & A -- http://www.ala.org/ala/oif/basics/intellectual.htm <http://www.ala.org/ala/oif/basics/intellectual.htm> Censorship in Our Schools and Libraries http://www.ncac.org/projects/before.html <http://www.ncac.org/projects/before.html> Good luck. Keep us posted. And hopefully, you will have a more enlightened staff and principal and student. *********************************************************************** Should teachers have the right to tell their students what they can read? Most teachers would probably say that a teacher should have the right to control actions in their classroom. Was the student reading during class time? Many times the library profession gets on its high horse and demands that they be final arbitrator on who should read what. I would suggest that you take a deep breath and don't over react. Until the reconsideration of materials is adopted by the School Board, it is meaningless as a tool. *********************************************************************** I wrote a response to your query and then started completely over. My first question would be "have you read many of Stephen King's books???" And would you want your 4th child reading them? Language is the least of the issues in his works. I know, I read everything he wrote from the time I started college until about 5 years ago and I taught for 32 years. What's in a movie doesn't always compare to the mental images one gets when one reads. I would also want to know if the child's mother read Stephen King, if her only concern about the book was that she didn't want her child to use that language at school. Does that mean she can use it at home? Does she really want her child's mind filled with the images that King creates with his words? Those would be my concerns first and then the teacher might not have had to make any decisions. Remember, too, that the teacher is responsible in the classroom for the many, not always the one. Did the teacher return the books to the library? Did the teacher tell the student that she should finish those books at home and provide her with other suggested reading? There are a lot of things to consider. And one is that all material is not written for all audiences. As to whether teachers have the right to tell students what they can and cannot read, I think all educators have to make sure they are acting under the policies of the school district and hopefully those policies are grounded in common sense and respect the culture and mores of the community it serves. I think as far as how to handle the situation, you need to make sure that whatever you do, it is done with respect for all involved. Or you will have a teacher or a parent that doesn't trust your judgment and will let others know about it. Not a good situation. I would think in a situation where you are dealing with every age group, you need to consider having distinct areas for different age levels. That is how public libraries handle it...especially for fiction...Adult, young adult, juvenile, children's sections. *********************************************************************** First off the teacher should have spoken to you before she took the books away. But, and yes there is a but, we are professionals, I work in a large urban middle school and we would not put Stephen King books out for our students. Yes, at the high school level. So I have a hard time with this book or others that are not appropriate for this age level being available to them. I realize that you are a K-12 school and I not sure what your physical plant looks like, but if possible certain parts of your collections should be off limits. If the parent doesn't care if the child reads a certain book, let them take them to the public library. And, yes we are different from a public library. Sorry, this may not be the kind of response that you were looking for. *********************************************************************** I'm sure this teacher has good intentions. I, too, would be alarmed to see a fourth-grader reading a Stephen King book, although I would also be impressed at that student's reading level! In any case, this is a tough spot since you don't want to antagonize your colleague. I would talk to this teacher first, and let the teacher know that, according to the student, her parents gave her permission to read the books as long as she didn't use any of the swear words in public. You might even suggest calling the parent to verify that what the student said was true (kids have been known to stretch the truth once in a while!). If the parent has indeed given their child permission to read the Stephen King book, the teacher should permit the child to do so in the classroom. It's not like she's reading Mein Kampf or an X-rated magazine. If the teacher continues to refuse to let the student have the King books, and this is in direct opposition to the parent's wishes, then I would suggest the parents ask for a meeting with the principal and the teacher. At this point, it's out of your hands. If the parents feel strongly enough about this, they will choose to pursue it. If they don't, then you should let it drop as well. *********************************************************************** No, the student has a "right to read" and that statement, available on the AASL site, I'm sure, needs to be shared with the principal and then the teacher--and the parent, if the teacher hasn't already heard from the parent. The student must feel humiliated and hurt by this kind of treatment from her teacher. ANY PARENT has the right to decide what his or her child reads but not what other parents' children can read. The right to read does not back the teacher's position. BUT, you have to be diplomatic, as you can well guess. You have to work with that teacher. If the books were causing a sensation and disrupting the classroom, the teacher could have put them away for the duration of the day and then sent them home with the child. You can gently suggest that you could understand that being the case. You can offer the teacher some advice from your professional training that could smooth over the situation if it hasn't blown up already with a mad parent. When I was at Beekmantown, a parent went to the Board because his daughter was restricted to using just the Children's Collection at the West Chazy Public Library when visiting there with her class. The library was adjacent to the little WC Elem School and the library's board had made that policy. It got changed to "may use other collections at the discretion of the school librarian." That "discretion" word is the biggie; if you talked to the girl before she took them out about why she wanted to and how her parents would feel (With sixth graders, my youngest readers, I always use the words, "You know your parents; you've lived with them your whole life.") and she consulted her parents, then the teacher should not interfere. You would talk a younger, less able child out of a King book and steer him or her to more appropriate books, but you have to trust kids to be honest with you until you have a reason not to. I've had some near-censorship issues with parents but always tell them that their child is lucky that her/his parent knows what he/she is reading and cares about them enough to worry. So far it's worked! So, find a way for that teacher to "save face" if possible, but back the parent and child. Have your proposed policy ready to share and the Right to Read statement and that's the best you can do. ********************************************************************** -- Chris Putnam-Pouliot K-12 Librarian Elizabethtown-Lewis Central School Elizabethtown NY cp4854@albany.edu -------------------------------------------------------------------- Please note: All LM_NET postings are protected by copyright law. 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