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I have to respectfully disagree. Van Allsburg's The Widow's Broom carries CIP data indicating that it be shelved with Fic. Nearly all other Van Allsburg carries CIP data suggesting it be shelved in E. All of them are picture books. I believe it is my job to exercise my judgment and catalog it in the section I deem appropriate. Likewise, a series of books on American Colonial occupations, for example, might overlooked for years because the series is broken up and cataloged, according to CIP data, by subject i.e. colonial limners cataloged in the arts, colonial schoolteachers in education, colonial blacksmiths in engineering, etc. I believe it is my prerogative to rejoin the series and catalog it in its entirety in Colonial America in the 900s. I am all about access for my readers, not about strictly adhering to someone else's suggestion. Students (even teachers) already find the library confusing enough. Mary Kenslea Library Teacher MacArthur Elementary School (at Northeast) 40 Putney Lane Waltham, MA 02452 kensleam@k12.waltham.ma.us -----Original Message----- From: School Library Media & Network Communications [mailto:LM_NET@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU] On Behalf Of Terry Young Sent: Friday, February 04, 2005 8:19 PM To: LM_NET@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU Subject: Re: [LM_NET] TARGET: FICTION OR EASY? While this is 'nice', you should catalog items so that the next slms does not spend time correcting what is not acceptable cataloging. Use your automation systems "categories" and the local tag "920" information...do not undermine the integrity of the MARC record. One of the major problems facing slms is "cleaning up the data" because a prior slms decided to do something that they thought was the best...when it fact in the "big picture of things" someone has to clean it up down the road. Remember that the legacy you leave behind is the integrity of the OPAC...in your absence it is the OPAC MARC records that support the slmc. No flames plese..this is my 2 cents... and the way I teach cataloging to slms. Terry ******************************************** Terrence E. Young, Jr., M.Ed., MLS Librarian, Jefferson Parish Public School System Adjunct Professor of Library Science, Univ of New Orleans NetWorth editor: Knowledge Quest E-Reference columnist: School Library Journal Writer/Reviewer: Library Media Connection, Science Books & Films, School Library Journal, Book Links -----Original Message----- From: School Library Media & Network Communications [mailto:LM_NET@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU]On Behalf Of Mary Kenslea Sent: Friday, February 04, 2005 6:36 PM To: LM_NET@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU Subject: Re: [LM_NET] TARGET: FICTION OR EASY? When it comes to cataloging, there is really no such thing as "proper assignment" of call numbers. You do not need to catalog the way Titlewave or Library of Congress or anyone else suggests. Public libraries and school libraries serve different audiences and have defensible reasons to catalog in different ways. We call our profession "library science", but it is more of an art than a science. We are paid to exercise judgment. Catalog your books in a way that will make them most accessible to your readers. That may mean that you will catalog your books of colonial occupations in 900s rather than spread throughout your collection by occupation. That may mean you catalog your sophisticated picture books by Bunting, Polacco, van Allsburg, and Weisner with the picture books if you want to encourage older children to understand that the "E" section really does mean E for Everyone and not E for Easy. CIP data is not doctrine - it is merely someone else's idea of where a book should go. You know your audience better than anyone else does. Serve it using your best judgment, not someone else's. Mary Kenslea Library Teacher MacArthur Elementary School (at Northeast) 40 Putney Lane Waltham, MA 02452 kensleam@k12.waltham.ma.us -----Original Message----- From: School Library Media & Network Communications [mailto:LM_NET@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU] On Behalf Of mmhung Sent: Friday, February 04, 2005 2:43 AM To: LM_NET@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU Subject: Re: [LM_NET] TARGET: FICTION OR EASY? Dear colleague, I always wonder the real use of picture book section. picture books section are only mean for the little children around or below 8, because they love books have more pictures than words. but with library training, i still insist and think that most books need to be classify under subject content. well, story books are ok to out in picture books but always be careful by fooling ourselves and readers by CIP and without thining and checking with classification schemes ======= 2004-10-15 22:36:23 wrote this in your previous mail======= >Wendy: >Be careful of taking picture books out the FIC, they might belong there. A >few years ago, i too questioned why picture books are in the FIC location of the >Public and School library, only to discover that they are older reader >picture books with content/subject matter (interest level) intended for older >readers. If you check the CIP on the copyright page, you will find the proper >classification, FIC or [E], but be careful that the CIP has been properly assigned. >I have found mistakes and my cataloguing teacher told the class that many >times it is not reliable. However, i have found that more often than not, it is >reliable. If in doubt i check via the Internet and compare other libraries, the >Library of Congress, Titlewave. I believe Tuesday is by David Weisner? We have >that cataloged and placed in the [E] (Easy Picture Books - but not always >easy) Section. You can also log onto Follett's Titlewave, do a search, and use >Follett's assigned Dewey - They go by the Sear's catalog as do most school >libraries. > >Phyllis Libbe >Library Assistant >Stanton Elementary School >CVUSD >Castro Valley, CA > >If you have a garden and a library, you have everything you need. ~Cicero > >-------------------------------------------------------------------- >All LM_NET postings are protected by copyright law. >To change your LM_NET status, e-mail to: listserv@listserv.syr.edu >In the message write EITHER: 1) SIGNOFF LM_NET 2) SET LM_NET NOMAIL >3) SET LM_NET MAIL 4) SET LM_NET DIGEST * Allow for confirmation. >LM_NET Help & Information: http://www.eduref.org/lm_net/ >Archive: http://www.eduref.org/lm_net/archive/ >EL-Announce with LM_NET Select: http://elann.biglist.com/el-announce/ >LM_NET Supporters: http://www.eduref.org/lm_net/ven.html >-------------------------------------------------------------------- = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Regards, Hung Ming Michael SKH Bishop Mok Sau Tseng Sec School Hong Kong http://library.mst.edu.hk mhung@mst.edu.hk mmhung@school.net.hk -- No virus found in this outgoing message. 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