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Okay, start getting angry.....talk about relegating the library and the librarian to the lowest possible position in education! I think the maintenance crew would be more valuable to the student than the librarian, based upon this article's author! He starts with the idea that most college students (they are, of course, high school students before he sees them) are able to locate information through resources such as Google and that the students can distinguish between good and bad information (sure, that's why I teach them about bogus websites like Bonsai Kitten...which my kids wanted to buy immediately because "it has PayPal" listed! Sure, they understand good and bad information...not!) Then he bashes librarians by stating that they want students to be "more like them" when they search...I don't think so. I'd just like them to be able to figure out how to logically reason a search topic and come up with a few good words to use in the search box! He then says that "information literacy is HARMFUL because it encourages librarians to teach ways to deal with the complexity of information retrieval rather than try to reduce that complexity." Excuse me, I didn't design the database(s) but I can tell you that if you try to use the same types of search components in all databases, you're going to find yourself sitting in front of screen that reads, "No search results located." The key paragraph (as if there weren't enough there to get you mad) stated that "Simply put, information literacy perceives a problem that does not exist.....it misses the real threat of the Internet altogether....which is that it IS NOW SUFFICIENTLY SIMPLE AND POWERFUL THAT STUDENTS CAN GRADUATE WITHOUT EVER USING THE LIBRARY." --- (Duh,....football has been very good to me, coach!") Where does this person work (actually he's an Associate Dean of Libraries...scary thought) and has HE ever used the library? --probably hasn't been out of the office since he got his PhD. Some of his comments suggest that the librarian should be more involved in the "writing process" of college students and help them locate resources on the shelves and in the databases that "narrow the search for the writing assignment." DUH?? We do that....As far as the writing components are concerned, if I had to teach English (again), then I'd get the PhD in that subject rather than in library science. He also states that "Librarians need to use their expertise to make the library's online presence approach the simplicity and power of the Internet." (i.e., the Internet works harder and smarter for students who just want the answers...don't teach them how to use online databases or how to search effectively,...students already know how to do that.) He also goes into the fact that libraries have high-quality print collections and great online resources...."students should know about them." HELLO??? Is anyone there??? ****** So, let's all meet sometime REAL soon...perhaps at ALA...and let's just burn those Information Literacy books that we have...and we probably need to rip out a few chapters in the Information Power Standards book also, since we shouldn't be teaching all of these unimportant things--- everyone already knows how to do that! (Give me a break....let me introduce you to the real world!) Read the article. If you've been in any library in the past ten years, you'll be a little miffed at this character's take on what we do--or at least what our university counterparts are doing (and I take offense to that also because I taught at the university level and believe me, the freshmen coming in DID NOT know how to search online databases or Google! Perhaps it was the "digitial divide" thing coming into play for many students, but that wasn't even addressed or acknowledged in the article!) Off the soapbox...I've got to get to work...on information literacy projects! ~Shonda Brisco Trinity Valley MS / US Librarian Fort Worth, TX briscos@trinityvalleyschool.org -----Original Message----- From: School Library Media & Network Communications [mailto:LM_NET@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU] On Behalf Of Alice Yucht Sent: Friday, January 07, 2005 9:04 AM To: LM_NET@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU Subject: [LM_NET] GEN: Information Literacy Makes All the Wrong Assumptions ?? Very interesting article in this week's Chronicle of Higher Education / Chronicle Review: http://tinyurl.com/5hvxs Information Literacy Makes All the Wrong Assumptions "Information-literacy programs -- knee-jerk responses by libraries to competition from online data -- are based on wrong assumptions about what students need, writes Stanley Wilder, associate dean of the River Campus libraries at the University of Rochester." -- Alice Yucht, aka Alice in InfoLand Library Management / Information Skills consultant, writer, and presenter somewhere in New Jersey ayucht at gmail dot com www.aliceinfo.org "We may be service-oriented, but we don't have to be servants. -------------------------------------------------------------------- All LM_NET postings are protected by copyright law. To change your LM_NET status, e-mail to: listserv@listserv.syr.edu In the message write EITHER: 1) SIGNOFF LM_NET 2) SET LM_NET NOMAIL 3) SET LM_NET MAIL 4) SET LM_NET DIGEST * Allow for confirmation. 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