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Netters, I had several replies and several requests for a copyright "verdict" in the "Poem in My Pocket" activity. I also got a request for the poem, but hit a snag. I went to the archives and found different authors and different poems listed! Apparently, there are several versions of the poem in a pocket theme, so I'm posting this HIT in 2 parts: Part A: Copyright question for making copies of the poem (with author cited) and handing out copies to kids after reading the pocket poem aloud in the library in a face-to-face situation with a class - I received the most authoritative answer from Carrie: "There are no definitive answers in copyright - that's what makes it so much fun! But if you consider the four factors of fair use (Section107), the poetry in a pocket activity sounds fair." -Carrie Russell, Copyright Specialist American Library Association Office for Information Technology Policy Part B: Information about the Poem in My Pocket author and source: Keep A Poem in Your Pocket is in the poetry collection by Nancy Larrick called Piping Down the Valleys Wild, an old book and out in paperback. ******************** Keep a Poem in Your Pocket is by Beatrice Schenk de Regnier and can be found in the following locations: Random House Book of Poetry for Children: A Treasury of 572 Poems for Today's Child (selected by Jack Prelutsky and illustrated by Arnold Lobel) on page 226. Also mentioned as being in "Sing a Song of Popcorn" ******************************** With a poem in my pocket By: Patience Strong Type: English : Book : Non-fiction Publisher: Long Preston, Yorkshire, Eng. : Magna Print Books, 1982, ©1981. ISBN: 0860094154 ******************************* ". . . PS: It is written by Bill Dettmer " (note: I found this attributed to him in several places, but his links don't work from my computer. I found a copy of his poem listed but it seems much longer than the one I recall.) ********************************** Conclusion: In using the archives I discovered that several of the links listed are now no longer functioning or are advertisement sites having nothing to do with the poem. I think this information from the archive needs to be updated. If you use the poem with students, please let me know your source and the first line of the poem. I will post a new hit of the sources along with just the first line so people can see the difference. Thank you, Joanne Ladewig, Library Media Technician (a.k.a. "Library Lady") Lawrence Elementary School, GGUSD Garden Grove, CA USA shatz@verizon.net ---Comments are my own and may not reflect the views of GGUSD. > -----Original Message----- > From: Ladewig [mailto:shatz@VERIZON.NET] > Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 11:24 PM > To: LM_NET@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU > Subject: [LM_NET] GEN: "Pocket poem" copyright questions > > > Hello LM_NETTERS, > > I checked the archives but didn't find an answer to this question which has > copyright implications: > > If, in the library, during a scheduled class visit(s) I planned to read a > selection of poems (including the poem about having a poem in your pocket) > and give the students each a pre-printed poem (this is where the copyright > question comes in to play) selected from one or more books of poetry (from > our library shelves), to keep in their pockets - > > Could I simply Xerox a variety of pages of poems and cut them up and allow > the students to select one? > > Or should I select a variety of poems and copy them to a word-processing > document with authors indicated, then make copies and cut up? > > Or, should I have the students copy them out themselves (which would take up > a lot of time, and in some cases be illegible!)? > > I'm not sure how the Fair-Use laws would apply to a number of poems for a > number of classes (in my case, with about 100 students at each grade level, > I'd be distributing about 400 poems). If we are simply reading the poems > aloud for pleasure and for increased exposure to a variety of poetry (not a > formal lesson, per se) does this still qualify as "face-to-face" > instruction? Or do I need to get permission from the publishers to > distribute printed copies? > > Thanks, > > Joanne Ladewig, Library Media Technician (a.k.a. "Library Lady") > Lawrence Elementary School, GGUSD > Garden Grove, CA USA > shatz@verizon.net > > ---Comments are my own and may not reflect the views of GGUSD. > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > All LM_NET postings are protected by copyright law. > To change your LM_NET status, e-mail to: listserv@listserv.syr.edu > In the message write EITHER: 1) SIGNOFF LM_NET 2) SET LM_NET NOMAIL > 3) SET LM_NET MAIL 4) SET LM_NET DIGEST * Allow for confirmation. > LM_NET Help & Information: http://www.eduref.org/lm_net/ > Archive: http://www.eduref.org/lm_net/archive/ > EL-Announce with LM_NET Select: http://elann.biglist.com/sub/ > LM_NET Supporters: http://www.eduref.org/lm_net/ven.html > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > -------------------------------------------------------------------- All LM_NET postings are protected by copyright law. 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