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I'd better post a hit in a hurry! I'm glad to know I was not delusional about leaving my computers on (and set to sleep overnight). There were a few opinions to the contrary but it sounds like we are all making rational choices based on individual set ups. THANK you ALL very much for taking the time to respond. Before I get to the hits, I have to share more: The day after this debate with the English teacher, I was on the staff meeting agenda to give a badly needed presentation on technology available in the library. Keep in mind I am paid as a sub and was not paid to attend this meeting, I volunteered in response to many conversations with the principal about improving teacher training AND his desire to increase technology use, especially in light of the pathetic print collection we have in the middle school library. When I arrived at school at 10:30 to prepare for this, all my computers had all been turned off for me. I spent one hour turning them all on, logging into various databases, setting up programs to showcase, etc. I used the 13 minutes it took to run the security scan to make signs for each station so teachers could pick which ones to explore after I gave a brief intro. When the hour was up and teachers were reconvening in my library, the principal made an intercom announcement that because they were behind schedule, the technology component was to be cancelled. I turned each and every computer off while they continued with their meeting (which I felt was rude of me but under the circumstances I had no choice) and then I went bowling with my kids. Ann Rox and Melody Pinkston win librarian of the week awards for actually providing references for me!!! Susan Waring Temporary Librarian (or maybe just library clerk) OLS-Seton Middle Campus Endicott NY 1. I looked into the energy savings of turning off the computers versus the wear and tear of leaving them on. I have 31 computers in my library. I have a few set for the monitor to cut off after 15 min. and the hard drive after 1 hour of no activity. They do not have to reboot. Moving the mouse brings them back to full life. At night, I turn off all monitors (they are the biggest energy users). I completely shut down all computers and the server for weekends and holidays. Here are some sites that discuss energy savings: http://www.fno.org/jan03/jancartoon.html#anchor http://www.sustainable.energy.sa.gov.au/pages/advisory/education/saving_school/saving_school.htm:sectID=18&tempID=45 http://www.uni.edu/its/us/faqs/PCenergytips.htm Here is the site I found most helpful for both views: http://www.pcguide.com/care/care/gen/powerOnOff-c.html 2. You might look at this: http://computer.howstuffworks.com/question328.htm I know that at our lab we leave the computers on all the time. Both Macs and PCs. 3. I leave the 11 computers in my library on from Monday AM until Friday PM unless the network goes down and I have to reboot. But even on weekends I leave the monitors on. A highly respected tech guy told me several years ago that I would use more energy turning those monitors off and on than I would having them on all the time. A screen saver runs after 15 minutes of idle time (black screen red scrolling line THE MORE YOU READ THE MORE YOU KNOW). 4. Computers need to be shut down at least daily. As you use the computer, files that are opened are not closed - at least background files sometimes are not - until the computer is shut down completely with the proper procedure followed. If a computer is left on for several days, the speed with which it operates will gradually slow down to almost zero because so many operations are still running in the background. I learned this from my son-in-law, a MS tech. When you first turn on your computer and before starting any programs, right click on My Computer and look at properties and see how much of your computer memory is being used. Later in the day before turning the computer off, do the same thing and you will find that your free computer space has been greatly reduced. Turning it off and waiting a few minutes to restart is the only way to restore the computer to its full capabilities. 5. We are part of a WAN that updates overnight. If you don't shut down, no updates. We ask all classrooms to shut down and we shut down our lab. I also shut down my home computer every night. 6. Our energy audit guru told us just last week that we should turn off our PC and the monitor when we *leave for the day.* He estimated that our district (7 schools) would save something like $15,000 a year in energy costs. We don't turn them off during the day as that is too time consuming, but we do before going home. 7. I only turn of my computers on Fridays and before a holiday. 8. Our computers (and we have 3 labs in addition to the library and administration) stay on all day. Our tech man says that one of the weakest components of a computer is the switch and that the constant wear and tear of turning on/off can break them. I have 3 computers in my library lab that have had to be "hot-wired" to the reset button because the power button cannot be repaired. I have another that is down because both the power and reset buttons are now broken. 9. Computers use very little power- much less than your typical home applicances. 10. Anything can be "fried" during a power surge...but that can happen even if the computer is turned off but left plugged in. Just get the best surge protector you can and hope for the best. 11. We have to leave ours on, because our district sends Windows updates through the network to each of the schools. 12. I don't know what others will say about today's computers, but a teacher's husband at my school had an Apple IIe. He did not turn it off ever and it lasted years longer than most. The policy at my school was to turn the computers off at the end of the day. It was not recommended to turn them on and off with each user and I forget why. 13. My computers here are set to go to sleep mode (monitor off, hard drive off) after 5 hours, just like yours. Screen savers are on otherwise. I shut down and unplug when I go home each night. The reason is that I'm seven miles from school, and if a thunderstorm comes up during the night I don't really want my computers zapped. Of course, I do have one that I'm threatening with a lightning rod, but that's another story. 14. I do not shut down my library computers, I put them to sleep. My home computer hasn't been turned off in years. Every once in awhile you need to reboot, but I recommend sleep over shut-down. 15. We never turn ours off, though that is due to after hours remote tech work. I've never heard that it made enough of a difference to turn the computers off though. At my previous school we also always left them on - that was my decision as the Tech Coordinator and again it was because I could do remote tech work after hours. That was in a public school in a district that was strapped for funds - believe me if it would have saved money the district would have had a policy requiring us to shut down! 16. This is probably too little too late, but the tech administrator for our county told me to leave our computers on, but turn off the monitor. He said that the only way to keep them protected from a power surge is to acutally unplug them from the wall. Just turning them off is not enough to protect them. He said to turn off the monitors b/c they lose their brilliance over time. Hope this helps. 17. I am in a small rural school where we have 9 computers in the library - 2 for the OPAC and 7 for internet and word usage. I came here from a larger district where we had 10 computers for student use - again 2 OPAC and 8 internet. In the larger school, we turned off the computers every night, not after every class period. That district was "energy conscious" but never really checked on us. In my present school we leave the computers on all the time, even weekends, unless the weather predictions are for rain and storms. We do turn all the computers off during Christmas vacation and spring break, but other than that they are left on. Why not? It takes time to go around and turn each one on and log in. The kids know so much more than we faculty do!! 18. Unless you have specific server issues, I would recommend leaving the computers ON. Hope this helps you. 19. As an LMC specialist, TV production teacher, and Technology guy (...am I an expert yet?)...Completely powering down and powering up computers (or televisions) every hour is very hard on them. They'll wear out more quickly. (You can actually hear a loud noise when you turn on a TV or computer for the first time, kind of a "Bu-rhum") "Sleep" is a better option to save monitors than a screen saver--I wouldn't power down hard drives during the day, but I have set the ones in our LMC to automatically turn off at 3:30. (They give a user a chance to delay turn-off if they're in use.) I do not use the auto-on feature, I have the first users of the day turn them on and let them switch off automatically. 20. Our tech person has set all the computers so that logout is not possible, only restart. She says they need to shut down and restart often to clear the cache/tempfiles/something like that? I don't remember all the technical terms. But since the last setting used is thus restart, I usually have to go around and shut them all down at the end of the day, because they want all possible power off to energy savings. 21. We only turn ours off when a major thunderstorm is expected and if a storm happens we buy new surge protectors. -------------------------------------------------------------------- Please note: All LM_NET postings are protected by copyright law. You can prevent most e-mail filters from deleting LM_NET postings by adding LM_NET@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU to your e-mail address book. 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