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The student's ideas in the article Nancy cited have merit, but........ are districts going to hire a fleet of censors who will "review the sites", or will it become someone's job in addition to what they already do (we know the answer to that one, don't we? <G> ). The recording system the students suggests would have to have its results reviewed daily and action quickly taken if it were to be effective. The sheer volume of sites to be reviewed in any but the smallest districts would lead me to doubt that "Lists of good and bad sites could be built up quickly, and students who abused the system could be punished." I am NOT a fan of filtering programs. NO filtering system is fool-proof or 100% effective, but I accept that, given the legal and social climate we work in, they are a fact of life for schools. What is needed, IMHO, is a filtering system with both a black list and a white list that can be accessed locally by the librarian, so that an incorrectly blocked site can be opened, or a inappropriate site that gets through can be immediately blocked. Failing that, several people at the distritct who are always available and have the authority to block or unblock sites that are called in to them by individual schools. Way too many districts have completely given up their authority to some anonymous corporate entity in this case...you must submit a request to the software company and wait for them to approve or deny your request. The process takes at least a few days, sometimes a week or more. By that time, the class(es) have moved on, or word of the 'porn site you can access' has spread throughout the school. Mark Williams Consulting Librarian Professional Services for Conferences, Districts, Workshops markwilliams@makaw.net -------------------------------------------------------------------------- "The closest thing you will find to an orderly universe is a good library" -------------------------------------------------------------------- Please note: All LM_NET postings are protected by copyright law. You can prevent most e-mail filters from deleting LM_NET postings by adding LM_NET@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU to your e-mail address book. To change your LM_NET status, e-mail to: listserv@listserv.syr.edu In the message write EITHER: 1) SIGNOFF LM_NET 2) SET LM_NET NOMAIL 3) SET LM_NET MAIL 4) SET LM_NET DIGEST * Allow for confirmation. * LM_NET Help & Information: http://www.eduref.org/lm_net/ * LM_NET Archive: http://www.eduref.org/lm_net/archive/ * EL-Announce with LM_NET Select: http://elann.biglist.com/sub/ * LM_NET Supporters: http://www.eduref.org/lm_net/ven.html --------------------------------------------------------------------