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I want to thank all of your for your responses to my question about shelving by AR level - you have given me many things to ponder. I have tried to save everyone's response to this hit, but I received A LOT of feedback, so I apologize if yours was accidentally left off the list. As a side note, I had never considered re-shelving the non-fiction books, only the fiction and yes, our catalog does reflect the AR level of the book and therefore its location on the shelf. I had many of you recommend a service called QuizList Interactive and I plan to investigate this service. My one question to those of you who use it is....after the kids look up their list, how do they then find their books on the shelf? The examples that I was sent did not list a call number. If I'm missing something obvious, I apologize. I see how useful the list can be in helping kids find titles within their range, but I'm still wondering how it helps them to physically find the book on the shelf? Thank you again for your responses, this is such a great service and a wonderful way to receive input from my colleagues! -- Angie Woodson Media Specialist Van Buren Elementary 225 Shaw St., Plainfield, IN 46168 317-839-2575 awoodson@plainfield.k12.in.us Four years ago when I came to the library where I work. The books were shelved just as you described, by AR level. Since I was new I decided to leave things as they were for that year. I purchased colored stickers from Highsmith that correspond to the levels and put them on the books, so the kids would get used to seeing the colored stickers. Over the summer, all the AR books back into the traditional system. I did this because I felt my one of my main jobs as a librarian was to teach children how to look up books in our online catalog as they would need to know how to do this in middle school and in other libraries. The students did not take long to become accustomed to looking for the colored labels and then checking the other label I had on the books which told them the exact level (3.4, 5.3, etc.) I also created charts to put around the library to show which stickers were what levels. And for those students who wanted to get 3 3.5 books or books with 5.0 points (because I do a store for points) I printed out 2 lists of the AR books by level and points. The children use the lists and then either look to see who the author is and go to the fiction area because they know it is arranged by the author's last name or use the catalog to see if its available and where it is located. I, too, had considered leaving the books shelved according to AR level but I felt it was important for the students to learn how to locate books. As public libraries and other schools they would attend do not have books arranged that way. And yes, it was a lot of work to reorganize, but I waited til summer and then could take my time doing it. Amy Bross Oh, I don't know if you should pursue this shelving nightmare any further. Think of how much work it will be when you finally convince the teachers in your school that the children should be able to READ, and read whatever they want, and you want to go back to a more convenient system of author's last name, first name. Peeling all those stickers off will be a nightmare in itself! I'm afraid you are going to get many replies on this one telling you to remember - reading improves reading, not reading at a certain level - and it is not up to us to limit a child's choices in any way! Good luck with your teaching staff. You will win them over eventually, but take it slow! You will be a HERO with the kids once they leave the "comfort" of being told what to read and they get to choose on their own! (Don't let my signature mislead you! I've been in your situation as a media specialist, as an aide and as a mother! It's tough, but you can help fix it!) Sandy Hodges SLIS Graduate Student Indianapolis, IN sandyhx4@aol.com I think that is totally wrong. I put AR levels on the spines, but the only books shelved separately are those below 1.9. I call these "Rookie Readers" and do this only to help K-1 find AR books. If you want to shelve by AR, you would somehow need to change your cataloguing. I am always asked by children where they can find a certain book. If it is fiction, I often know the author off the top of my head and can put my hand right on a book. If they were filed by AR, I would have to look up every book, check the AR level, and then locate the book. What a waste of time! Also, are you teaching students the skills they need to locate books in a "real" library? Deborah Bobo Media Specialist St Andrews School of Math and Science 30 Chadwick Dr. Charleston, SC 29407 Yes, it does make it easier for locating books on the children's reading level. It's efficient. That's a good thing. However, "AR" shelving is NOT the standard - Dewey for nonfiction and fiction by author surname is, in nearly every school and public library, in this country and nearly every one around the world (Sweden is one exception - they have their own system). So, your students are not building a transferable "Life Skill" - and every school library they move to (and today's kids move frequently) will likely be different from yours. Personally, I think that once having learned the Dewey system, a child should be able to go into ANY school or public library and find what they want relatively easily. If I want a book on the solar system, I go to the 520 shelves. If these books are instead filed by reading level, I go to my "level" but perhaps there are no planet books there. Then where do I go? If I am a librarian, and a teacher calls me and says please collect all the tiger, lion, and cheetah books for her classroom use, and she's sending students to pick them up in five minutes, I can go right to the 599.7s, and pull them quickly. If they are by levels, I will have to print out a listing and hunt for them. How useful is this for research? Can kids track down books this way? If they need to go to the public library to supplement, how will they find books there when they don't know Dewey? (And yes, I have worked at a public library and occasionally had 6th grade students come in and NOT KNOW how to locate a book by the Dewey number - one said his school shelves by levels. . . ! He was embarrassed and I was embarrassed for him.) Think about this: Do we want our students to feel comfortable in using the library, any library, or confused and intimidated? Students from my school are frequently reminded that if they check out a book from our nonfiction, they can find more on the same topic at the public library by using the same Dewey number, because IT'S THE SAME SYSTEM. Back to the leveled library - What if the lion book on their "level" doesn't cover the questions the teacher wants answered for their report? In a standard Dewey arrangement, all the lion and "big cats" books on different reading levels will be together, so the student has the option of checking a higher or lower level book as well. And, despite the levels, it's possible the child can locate the information s/he needs in one of them. A third level reader might find a better body diagram or life cycle illustration in a 2nd level book, for example. Personally, I feel that arranging the library in AR is a loose form of censorship. If children must always read "at their level" this may work to facilitate a reading program, but is it the best over the long term for the student? At the very least, I hope that your library policy allows them to have at least one "Free choice" in addition to their AR reader. I wouldn't change anything dramatically this year, but do think about this. Especially think about that 6th grade boy I mentioned at the public library . . . how will he find books next year in junior high? In high school? You might be able to change shelving after they put on the color labels with the levels. We have found those very helpful at our site. It's also possible that this (leveled shelving) was a district-wide policy made by administrators who are heavily vested in this program and see this arrangement as efficient for running it. Teachers may feel that way too. They are focused on this year, right now, getting reading scores (especially comprehension) up. They may see the library as a "Facilitation Station" for their reading program. They do not understand (or have forgotten) that a library is a place for research (and LEARNING HOW to locate materials) as a life skill as well as reading. This is my 2 cent's worth. Feel free to add all or part of this message to your "HIT" if you post one. Joanne Ladewig, Library Media Technician (a.k.a. "Library Lady") Lawrence Elementary School, GGUSD Garden Grove, CA USA shatz@verizon.net I was in a school in Illinois that shelved in the manner you are contemplating. I was in favor of programs like AR and Reading Counts before but that experience made me do a 180 on the reading programs for incentives issue. It was a K-8 public school in Illinois. (Did you go to IU?--I got my MLS from the Bloomington campus in 01.) DO NOT do it. Here are my reasons: 1. The school superintendent had decreed that AR scores be part of the reading grade. 2. Teachers began relying solely on AR points instead of tying reading to writing and, as a result, standardized test scores for writing assessments began to fall. 3. Becoming so heavily vested into AR means that Renaissance Reading is doing your collection development for you and choosing your books. 4. Many of the reading levels do not take content into consideration. As a K-8 school, I had many books on low reading levels that were totally inappropriate for elementary students who were capable of reading on those levels. (Ex. Fallen Angels by Walter Dean Myers is a 4 I think) 5. At that time (I understand it is a bit different now), there were few tests for non-fiction books and so non-fiction books were rarely checked out of that library. The reading that is REQUIRED in life is non-fiction---instruction manuals, tax forms, etc. and our students were not getting in any practice at reading non-fiction materials. 6. Students are not learning how to use a library properly, or perhaps I should say a proper library. 7. There are no wide scale independent studies (not done by Renaissance Reading) that support the effectiveness of AR on a long term basis. It does improve reading motivation in the short term but the few independent studies done indicate that it does not improve reading on a long term basis..* McMillan, Mary Katherine. 1996. The effect of the accelerated reader program on the reading comprehension and the reading motivation of fourth-grade students. Ed.D. diss., University of Houston.* 8. Many students cheat when the program is fully embraced. I even had parents who snuck into school to try to check on their children's AR scores so that their child would have the most points. 9. Many of my students repeatedly expressed to me that they were not reading anything any more after they did not have to meet AR requirements. This comment was coming most often from 6-8th grade boys. 10. There are multiple places to look for a title. You eventually memorize AR levels but it is a pain in the neck for both shelving and searching. Teachers do not like to have to look up books they want to use by level and so you have to do it for them. 11. And finally, I heard from a teacher at my old school in Illinoisrecently. They are abandoning the shelving by AR method this year to return to a traditional library shelving system as they have decided the long term experiment (it was in effect about 8 years there) was a failure. I am aware that many schools do shelve that way. I will never again work at a school that insists on it. Good Luck. Cheryl Youse am sorry to hear when AR rules the library... I find the concept very disgusting. AR is in my school. I do not shelve books by level; instead, I teach the students to use our OPAC that allows the students to search by AR reading level. The training of how to locate anything in a library is a necessary skill. Your students can not walk into a public library and find books sorted by AR level. Life is much broader than AR. Color coding is a privacy violation and unfortunately not enough libraries have been inspected by accreditation agencies to stop this violation. Sandy Scroggs Home email sscroggs@satx.rr.com Professional Sandy Scroggs Librarian Schenck ES San Antonio, TX sscroggs@saisd.net The question of AR is a whole other ballgame, but the shelving issue.................... One of the purposes of a school library is to teach students life-long learning skills. Using a catalog and learning how to find books on the shelves is one of these important skills. High school, university, public and other libraries are not arranged by reading level. There are other ways to mark AR levels and still maintain the integrity of the library system. My 2 cents. Jill Brown, LMS Nardin Academy Buffalo, NY buflib@yahoo.com How do you teach standard library arrangement and the Dewey Decimal subject arrangement in your library? When students go to any other library, how are books arranged? To be information literate, isn't it better practice to arrange books in a school library consistent with the majority of libraries students encounter outside of and after elementary school? Bev Golden, Librarian Canyon Ridge Elementary San Antonio, TX bgolden@satx.rr.com I was in your position last year--entering a school very wrapped up in AR and the books being shelved by level. Mine were actually by level and then by points, so all the 1.1 books together with the .5 first. I hated it especially when students asked for another book by the author they just read because they don't all have the same level. After books were returned for the year, my aide and I rearranged so the books are in "proper" library order. Students are able to search the OPAC by level, if they really need one for their teacher. We also put the exact level and points on the spine, so kids can browse the shelves if they want I'm trying to shift the focus of the library away from AR--that's all the previous librarian did with the kids. I think it's important for the kids to have the library set up like every other library they are going to encounter. THe middle school doesn't use AR, so this will make for an easier transition. Hope this helps. GOod Luck. Heidi Kaiven Media Specialist Brass Castle Elementary School 16 Castle St. Washington, NJ 07882 908-689-1188 x.614 Our elementary school is also heavily into AR. We own more than 4000 quizzes for a population of under 400 students. I would advise against shelving by AR levels. Here's why: You have the responsibility of teaching students to locate a book in the library. This is a skill needed regardless of what school or library the student uses. If the collection is shelved by AR level, an important opportunity is lost. Students miss learning about standard library practice as far as shelving is concerned. They leave your program with the inability to function in another library . Your library curriculum is subverted. How do you teach locating a book by call number when students know that in their library they find AR books a different way? Selecting an AR book should reinforce your information literacy curriculum and give students an opportunity to practice those skills. Students need to be exposed to the entire library, not just the AR collection. By inter-shelving AR books with the general collection,student see other titles on the same topic that they might enjoy. Separating AR books implies to students that they are the only "worthy" books in the library. Your teachers will fight you to keep the shelving by level rather than by standard library practice. Hold firm. You have responsibilities to your students and their ability to function in a library setting. We have resisted labeling our books with levels or with colored dots (long advocated by Renaissance Learning). We put the level and the point value of each title in our MARC record. Students learn keyword searching as well as Boolean operators when they search for AR titles. They learn to locate books by call number. They learn that our library has many titles on the topic they're exploring. Other possibilities are purchasing the AR Book Guide which will allow you to customize it to reflect only the books you own that you have quizzes for. You can add a call number field if you choose. You can also create a database with Excel or AppleWorks that can be sorted by book level. By all means work with your staff to support the AR program, but don't let it relegate your information literacy responsibilities to the back burner. You have an important role to play in your students' learning. 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