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I'm sorry, but I have to come into this debate again because there is something nagging me ... and I think a different perspective might offer something. Some years ago in Australia, when there was a definite and definable shift in the way we managed our students, someone whose work I still highly respect, taught my colleagues and I to frame our requests for student behaviour in positive terms rather than negative. He said that in the phrase, "Don't run!" we will automatically put the emphasis on the word "run" and that is what the children will hear. They don't hear '"don't". It is the nature of the child and their developing audial perception. He said we were much more likely to have positive results if we expressed the behaviour we wanted - in this case to say "Walk!" That has always stuck in my mind and it certainly changed my teaching - even a few months ago when I started my last school year and the students were developing their own library behaviour codes (different codes for different grade levels), I was encouraging them to express their thoughts in positive terms. They actually find this quite difficult because they know what they should not do but re-phrasing it into what they should do is great vocabulary practice. So, "Don't get your library books dirty" becomes "Keep your library books clean." Anyway, all this is a preamble to responding to a message that talked about having a box of things about the care of books and discussing the items with the children - something that it appears a number of you do. When I read through the list of things, I was thinking., WOW! Wouldn't kids who apparently cannot say, let alone recognise their names to be able to check out a book be confused!. Here some YES things and some NO things, now which was which? All they remember are crayons, backpacks, stickers and so on. Now it may be that those of you who do this sort of thing do more than just tell the children why each thing is in the box - that wasn't explained in the message, but may I suggest, with my how-children-learn-effectively hat on, that you strengthen the message by having them really get involved by 1. Have two hoops on the ground, one with a very large tick (check?) mark in it for yes, and the other with a large cross in it for no. As students draw something out of the box, have a discussion about whether it is good for books or not, and have them place it in the appropriate hoop. 2. When the item has been placed in the hoop, attach a large tick or cross (cut from cardboard) to it to reinforce the message. Most learning at this stage is done by seeing and doing, and the crayons with a large cross on them will remain in the mind. 3. You might even continue consolidating the message by making a display with the hoops and the yes/no items. I apologise if some of you think I am stating the obvious but there are newbies amongst us who may well be struggling with this whole issue of how to make these book-care lessons effective, and the more ideas in the pot, the more they are likely to find a morsel that suits their tastes. And just for the record, because it has been mentioned a few times, I did NOT work at a perfect school. No one does. In February, at the beginning of the school year, we had 450 students with more than 40 nationalities represented and over 50 languages spoken in their homes. All our students have a unique borrower barcode that is printed on a class sheet with their name underneath their code. We got around the name issue by having the teacher accompany them on the first/ all visits so he/she could help us with those we didn't understand; the children all wore name tags that their teachers had made for those first few days before names were learned; and the children were able to recognise their names on the class sheet and point to it. Consequently, they all got to borrow on that first day. In terms of educating parents, I believe our parents are no smarter than anywhere else (and many have no English), but, on the whole, they are smart enough to know how to look after other peoples' property. If they aren't, then letters home are unlikely to make a difference. There was information about their child's borrowing in the school enrolment pack they were given and we have to assume that is read. (There's no guarantee that letters are read or understood either.) But, if we are discussing the woes of the dumbing-down of YA non-fiction, don't let's be guilty of the same thing and dumb-down our parents. Political correctness makes me feel I should be apologising for my strong stance in this discussion, but I won't. I am such a strong believer in the empowerment of kindergarten kids borrowing on their first day that I write what I believe after 33 years working with little children and a willingness to share that experience. No personal slur or flame is intended so please don't think this is directed at any one person or idea. Barbara Barbara Braxton Teacher Librarian PALMERSTON ACT 2913 AUSTRALIA E. barbara@iimetro.com.au "Together we learn from each other." -------------------------------------------------------------------- Please note: All LM_NET postings are protected by copyright law. You can prevent most e-mail filters from deleting LM_NET postings by adding LM_NET@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU to your e-mail address book. 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