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I am still of the opinion in computer programming - "Garbage In - Garbage Out". Pornographic material is not appropriate for students at school any more than on a faculty computer. The examples in history are there for us to study and NOT repeat. Many of the reasons Rome fell (and many other cultures) were rooted in relaxed moral standards. Having said that - the prerogatives and choices of individuals should still be held as an important right for all!! As far as "correcting" students, I would be more inclined to show them better choices; as well as calling in the parents, administrator, etc.... As a parent of three (who are now all over 21). I certainly would have wanted to know if my child was involved in this kind of reading. Dennis Hollingsead Executive Assistant Office of the Provost Andrews University Berrien Springs, MI 49104 269-471-3404 hollings@andrews.edu -----Original Message----- From: School Library Media & Network Communications [mailto:LM_NET@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU] On Behalf Of Dorothy Scanlan Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2007 1:53 PM To: LM_NET@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU Subject: Re: book "tolerance" - NOT!! Would you have this book (Training Grounds by Sarah Veitch) in your school library? I doubt if even a public library would waste their money. Based on the description on Amazon, this is a pornographic book, one that is part of a pornographic S&M series. If this book were a movie, I doubt that that student would be of legal age to view it as surely it would receive a minimum of an "X" rating. The last I heard, minors could not legally possess pornography. Therefore, giving the book back to the student is akin to giving alcohol to a student. Both acts are illegal. At the very least, when a student makes a poor choice it is our responsibility as adults to correct that student! Why are we so afraid to do that anymore?! And speaking as a woman, this is definitely not the kind of book I would be o.k. with a boy reading. What kind of opinions about women is this student forming? In my home county, where my husband is a high school teacher, if a student is caught with pornographic material, he/she is taken to see an administrator, a conference with a parent is called, and the student is suspended. Yes, we want our students to read, but what's wrong with having standards for what they read? The word "censorship" has become so twisted and perverted! It is NOT censorship to tell a student that a particular book is inappropriate for him/her to read! I am the librarian in a boys' middle school. I'm sure if I had a subscription to Playboy, the library would be the most popular place in the school! (Duh!) But it really isn't appropriate for me to do that, is it? Dorothy Scanlan Librarian St. Paul's Middle School dscanlan@stpaulsschool.org ----------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Please note: All LM_NET postings are protected by copyright law. You can prevent most e-mail filters from deleting LM_NET postings by adding LM_NET@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU to your e-mail address book. To change your LM_NET status, e-mail to: listserv@listserv.syr.edu In the message write EITHER: 1) SIGNOFF LM_NET 2) SET LM_NET NOMAIL 3) SET LM_NET MAIL 4) SET LM_NET DIGEST * Allow for confirmation. * LM_NET Help & Information: http://www.eduref.org/lm_net/ * LM_NET Archive: http://www.eduref.org/lm_net/archive/ * EL-Announce with LM_NET Select: http://lm-net.info/ * LM_NET Supporters: http://www.eduref.org/lm_net/ven.html * LM_NET Wiki: http://lmnet.wikispaces.com/ --------------------------------------------------------------------