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janelle, I often "feel" as if I'm a minority when discussions are underway. But truly, a few people voicing their ideas on LM_NET is hardlly a majority. The issue here is that we belong to this incredible LM_NET universe with a wide diversity of peoples serving wide diverse populations. We are professionals of the very organization that not only respects that the world is made up of people from all walks of life with all sorts of opinions, we PROTECT the EVERYONE'S right to be a free-thinker. Not to mention we respect the right to privacy!! The issue at hand is no longer whether or not we should stock a particular book, it's that the "private" conversations of librarians have been turned into public intrigue. It's the medias mission to sensationalize!!!! It's completely unfortunate for ALL LM_NETters. I can only imagine how violated our librarians that were mis-quoted must feel at this time. I think this is going to go down in history. May other listservs BEWARE!!!! Ann Marie Grumm anniegii@yahoo.com http://amgrumm.spaces.live.com http://literacyinthelibrary.blogspot.com/ http://usingamazon.blogspot.com/ Former Head Librarian Aoba Japan International School Tokyo, Japan iPods NOT laptops. The more that you read, the more things you will know. The more that you learn, the more places you'll go. ~ Dr. Seuss ~ -----Original Message----- From: rasmone101@ALLTEL.NET To: LM_NET@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU Sent: Sun, 18 Feb 2007 1:30 PM Subject: Re: AOL & "Lucky" I have been hesitant to join in this discussion; I am often on the minority side of such debates, and my comments may or may not serve the purpose or intent that I wish. I do feel strongly, however, that calling an anatomical part by its correct, scientific name is a positive statement for education and intelligence, instead of a negative one. I would feel the same way if the body part had been the clavicle or the patella. Sixth through eighth grade students are not too young to know and use the correct scientific names for things. Whether or not the scrotum of the dog (based on an actual occurrence, I believe I read) was the ideal choice of a first page incident is obviously open for (much) debate. I, personally, do not have a problem with it. I have more concern over the absentee (although, ultimately financially responsible) character of the father or the "lost," unsupervised wanderings of small children in a horrible storm. My initial impulse would be to shelve this book in our K-8 library. However, I teach at a Catholic school, and therefore, feel the responsibility to consult my principal for input and discussion and probably, ultimately, follow her directive. I would hope that we are in agreement. I realize that may be a compromise of my principles, but I am experienced enough to know that there are many ways to bring information, literature, and education into children's lives. I think the Newbery book has many redeeming qualities, and I hope none of us have to base our selection choice for our own libraries on the use of one word. Janelle Quick Simon Librarian Christ the King School Lexington KY 40502 -----Original Message----- From: School Library Media & Network Communications [mailto:LM_NET@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU] On Behalf Of Kathy Reel Sent: Sunday, February 18, 2007 12:02 PM To: LM_NET@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU Subject: Re: AOL & "Lucky" Yes, I have AOL email, too, and saw the hot button on this matter last night. One item of interest to me was the picture of the librarian they have, a thin woman with a bun. How stereotypical can they get? I am mortified that our profession is being portrayed by buns and bans. I fear that this type of publicity is very damaging to our efforts to connect with youth, gaining their trust and developing a mutually benefiting relationship in the love of reading. I will definitely read The Higher Power of Lucky now, as I agree with the sentiments expressed by Pat Scales in the news article, that if we exclude a book based on a single word without reading that book in its entirety for its overall value, then we are indeed practicing censorship and not selection. Pat is no novice to the area of book censorship. Her book, Teaching Banned Books: 12 Guides for Young Readers, is an excellent resource for educators. I'm not disallowing for the fact that some books are more age appropri! ate than others, and quite honestly, I'm not sure exactly how I feel about "the word" in question in children's literature, but I know that I will have to read the whole book to determine my opinion about this book. I, also, want to add that my words here are in no way a condemnation of any of the wonderful librarians who have responded negatively to this "word" in this book. I know that there are tremendous outside pressures that must be dealt with in the real world when placing a book on the library shelf. I just would like to give the book a fair shake by reading it as a whole, as I haven't heard too much about the book in that respect yet. Kathy Reel Former English/Writing Teacher New Librarian Looking for Job Owensboro, KY -----Original Message----- From: LLomers@AOL.COM To: LM_NET@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU Sent: Sun, 18 Feb 2007 7:44 AM Subject: Re: Gen: AOL & "Lucky" One of AOL's hot button topics today teases with the lead..."Librarians Ban Books". _www.aol.com_ (http://www.aol.com) I'm still waiting for the link to post your comments to come up. You all must have found it already :) Leslie Lomers Fairhope High School Fairhope, AL _LLomers@aol.com_ (mailto:LLomers@aol.com) (home) _LLomers@bcbe.org_ (mailto:LLomers@bcbe.org) (school) -------------------------------------------------------------------- Please note: All LM_NET postings are protected by copyright law. You can prevent most e-mail filters from deleting LM_NET postings by adding LM_NET@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU to your e-mail address book. 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