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I especially want to thank the kind people who took the time to reply to my query about the poster maker. Most people are very happy with the Varitronics machine, but two people think that a printer would be a better purchase. We have used the Varitronics for over a week and really like it. It is very simple to use, but we haven't made a decision yet. Good luck. Some of the replies are listed below. George Anne Draper, librarian Wynne High School, Wynne, AR gdraper@wynne.k12.ar.us 1.Our ASB purchased one and it was great fun until we ran out of supplies. We can't afford to keep it running, so there it sits. 2.Our PTO president and principal thought we "must" have this. Our principal keeps it in his office and the principal has made all the posters. We've used it 6 times this year..the last two times our principal wrote a "Thanks Teachers" note on it. I used it for two posters for the library. The principal made the posters. We also enlarged two pictures of our building that were taken 50 years ago for our "golden" anniversary. Of course they were in purple and white-you can choose the colors but they are only one color plus white. In my opinion, it works fine, but we don't use it. It has been an expensive toy for our building. 3.I don't have the machine but I would advise you to have only one or two people who are authorized to use the machine. We only allow library staff to operate our laminator and the first one that we had lasted almost 17 years before it had to be laid to rest. The one time a teacher used it during the summer without our knowledge the repair bill was over $250 (in 1995 dollars). 4.Our school does own a PosterPrinter. Many of our staff find it useful individually for their classrooms, and it has been used for schoolwide projects regularly throughout the year. Any of our staff are welcome to use it. We have directions posted on the machine which is housed in the media center. Usually, staff need to be shown how to use it once. It doesn't take long to do, and it is easy to use. It is relatively trouble free. The ink is "in" the paper, so you don't have to buy ink cartridges of any sort. Users are limited to one color posters (green, red, blue, etc.), but that has not been a problem for most. From time to time, someone thinks it will print multiple colors on one poster. Staff does need to be aware that they should maximize space on the master copies they make on copy paper before making posters on the PosterPrinter in order to ensure that the visuals/text on the poster are as large as possible in the end. Small print is still relatively small even after being "blown up." Teachers also need to understand that TTP paper CAN be heat laminated. DTP cannot be heat laminated, only cold laminated. (This applies to the PosterPrinter brand we use.) We do not raise money with items made with the PosterPrinter. Our principal allocates funds to buy the supplies. I will say, though, that now a number of other schools in our district are requesting posters be made for them. This is starting to become something we need to make a policy about because the supplies are expensive. Below, I have listed for you the current pricing for an average-sized poster. If teachers wish to make personal posters or if other schools request posters, we will likely soon have a policy in place requesting payment based on the figures below. As of 5/16/07 . . . CURRENT POSTER PRICING **Based on 23"x 31" poster** TTP Paper (can be heat laminated) $129.95 per roll for 85' of paper averages 30-32 posters $4.06 per poster DTP Paper (can only be cold laminated) $89.95 per roll for 100' of paper averages 36-38 posters $2.37 per poster Cold Laminate $249.95 per set for 300' of laminate covers an average of 116 posters $2.15 to laminate one poster 5.I would look at a large inkjet printer instead not anymore expensive all colors possible. Supplies same or cheaper you don't say what brand you're previewing. We have a Varitronics Pro Image Plus. It was purchased for us by our PTSA. The teachers make their own posters. I request the paper (colors also) from the Office. It comes out of the school supplies budget. Are you purchasing the cold laminator also? That is what gets expensive. There are 2 kinds of of poster paper. One kind only goes through the cold laminator. The other kind goes through both hot and cold laminators, but is more expensive. More than $100 per roll. The cold laminator is a plus. Most teachers are making posters that have rules, schedules, etc. that they can hang all year and to be laminated is nice. But it costs $245.95 from our purchasing consortium to buy a cartridge (top and bottom rolls 300 ft. in length). Desktop Cold Laminator $1,031.30 Poster Printer Varitronics - $4,995.00 Computer Interface - $700.00 can be used with a computer and to make a loooooong Poster from a roll. We have it. Never been used. Transfer Plus Paper - hot or cold laminator - $129.95. STandard Thermal Paper - cold laminator only $89.95. We have listened to a presentation about some of the "cutsie" things that could be done. We decided against it. I don't do this for teachers. I will walk them through it. Or maybe print if they are running late. We have 1000 Jr. High Students and about 50 plus teachers. I forgot. Both machines are trouble free. The printer can start to make lines down the middle. I have called the company and they have walked me through how to clean rollers, etc. They don't require service or repair. We have had ours for at least 6 years. The cold laminator is heavy and will require a sturdy desk and some space to work. The laminated materials come out the back, so it needs to be place either perpendicular to the wall or at least a ways from it. 6.As I said before we had the Varitronics Poster maker for about 15 years. We up graded three different models during that time period. It was a good machine but had limits with only two colors. Paper was expensive if you wanted to laminate a poster. I was looking to up grade three years ago and after talking with my sales rep. He convinced me to change over to an ink jet Poster printer. We have not regretted that move. It prints in full color on paper and photo paper. It reproduces any photos or computer graphics we send to it. Our faculty and student love the results and keep us busy producing posters and banners all the time. ( I have done as many as 20 posters a day). We charge our students for the cost of materials only. A 24X30" poster is $5.00 and a 36X48" is $8.00. Banners are $3.00 per foot in length. This covers the cost of paper and ink. If the poster need lamination there is an extra charge. The cost to have this done outside is four times greater. We require that all posters and banners design be done by the patron in Illustrator, Publisher, PowerPoint or Photoshop and are sent by E-Mail or on a storage device. We do not get involved in the design or creativity of the poster. This could consume hours of your time. We also ask for four days of lead time to print out the job. This avoids the last minute rush jobs. We averaged between 250 to 300 posters per year over the last two years. Hope this was helpful -------------------------------------------------------------------- Please note: All LM_NET postings are protected by copyright law. You can prevent most e-mail filters from deleting LM_NET postings by adding LM_NET@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU to your e-mail address book. 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