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Dear LM Netters, Thanks to all who responded to my query about cataloging videos. Sorry to be so long in posting a hit but I started a "part-time" summer job that has turned into a full time job. I received several replies and found that everyone catalogs videos differently. But, all the feedback has been extremely helpful. What I've decided to do is to use either VHS or DVD as the first 3 letters (I'm keeping the 2 formats separate since many of my teachers do not yet have a DVD player). Then, for fiction videos, I'm going to use the 1st 3 letters of the title. For non-fiction, I am going to use Dewey. For example, for my Cyberchase videos, I will use VHS 510 CYB. Someone sent me a link that I found useful (http://sunlink.brodart.com/). This is for the state of FL libraries and the Dewey numbers are more accurate than the California libraries catalog in which I was searching. Thanks again, Melissa Example: VC or VHS 745 JYN VC or VHS E CAR I prefer to use Dewey in this case...it's much easier to find what you are looking for, especially if you are automated. Instead of VHS, however, I use VID because we have a number of DVDs. Here's how I would do it in my library: VID 741 CYB Hi, I catalog the videos as if they were book matter. Movies from books are catalogued fiction, biographies are 92, and the academic movies are catalogues 001-999. My spine label looks something like: VC 415 GRA VC is the county's system for video collection. This particular title is *Grammar Rocks.* I would be wary of the 741 tag---that's drawing which isn't, in my opinion, a good description of the materials. Hope this helps. I'd be interested in your replies. Hello- My suggestion would be to consider the VHS content first. Imagine your cyberchase VHS was a book... you would probably catalog it in the 510s for mathematics. I do the same thing with my av materials. If it is nonfiction, I catalog with the prefix VID (I interfile VHS and DVD- figuring it doesn't matter much to staff which they use- and this way they only have to search/browse in 1 spot for videos) then the dewey call number, then the first 3 letters of the title (since most videos are considered works of multiple authorship). For movies of fiction books, I use the prefix VID, then FIC and the author's last name (I know, I know, this doesn't follow pure AACR2 rules for multiple responsibilities, but I figure it is how most of my patrons think of it... i.e. Do you have anything to go with my author unit on Marc Brown). Hope this helps! Melissa, When I catalog videos, I use the Prefix VHS then the dewey number and the first three letters. An Arthur video would look like this. VHS 372.6 BRO Hope this helps! For all videos: Exmple: To Kill a Mockingbird AV 813 Lee Melissa, The practice of libraries not classifying non-print materials like films, videos and DVDs, is really a disservice to our users. I know it grew out of a variety of hang-ups about them initially (high cost, so they were shelved outside of the users' access, like under the desk or in the office; new format, and people were unsure of what to do with them; etc.). So, if the nonfiction title is on dinosaurs, put it in the Dewey number for dinosaurs. If it's fiction, either use the 790's or use FIC. But do assign a classification number and subject access points to all the material you see fit to add to your library's collection. Then users can locate all your materials on a particular subject in one search in your OPAC, irregardless of the format. It makes for better public service. Good luck. I am a huge believer in organization and being logical. Therefore, all videos, DVDsm CDs, CD-ROMs, etc. are cataloged with Dewey with an appropriate prefix, i.e. DVD, etc. Keeps everything clearly in its place - everything is in the OPAC - and students and teachers can access it all and borrow. I see no reason (for me anyway) for any other system. We use VR (videorecording) which covers DVD and VHS then I do Dewey Numbers then first three letters of the title. VR 372 SCH for School House Rock VR FIC FIN for Finding Nemo We spent all of last year re-cataloging our video collection. We use a dewey number that is most appropriate and the call number VIDEO. It is much better.! Anchorage School District classifies its video-recordings according to Dewey scheme. We use a prefix as follows: V - Videocassettes VD - Videodiscs that are 12 inches in diameter DVD - DVDs The cutter for each item after the classification number is taken from the main entry. You can see examples in our OPAC http://dewey.asd.k12.ak.us/ Signin as ASD Choose DVDs as subject - examine 984 field Choose Videorecordings as subject - examine 984 field I had a HS video collection of 300 titles. My call number in the computer was VC This tell the type of media 599.145 Dewey Non-fiction number or F NAT I used director's last name or Production company VC 145 This in the accession number of the video and is how the video is filed on the video shelves. I started out shelving by Dewey, but usually you do not have a lot of space so the means that I was not constantly sliding videos around when I added 10 videos between 590 and 595. I did it both ways and filing by accession number is less work on you in the long run. I wanted my states to show media separate from book or I would not put VC in front of the dewey number. All videos are cataloged by Dewey number. All movies(Old Yeller) are placed in 813. VT is used to denote all our videotapes, then Dewey number underneath, and finally the first three letters of the title are used. See example below for call number. Hope this is helpful. VT 813 Old All 2,185 videos in my library are classified by Dewey. The designation is V (for Video) followed by the Dewey Call number as if it was a book. Fiction is V F first three letters of author of work. Biography is V B name of subject. Sometimes I have deviated from this slightly - if it is a set that I want to keep together I will give it : V Dewey number for general area and first three letters of set name: example V 530 MEC for a set titled The Mechanical Universe which has 6 tapes that deal with various aspects of mechanics and math and is always used as a set by the Math teacher. I also have some history tapes the same way, they came as a set and I keep them that way as they are easier to find by the students. Now, I also have some kits and some DVDs These get KIT followed by Dewey or DVD followed by Dewey and are shelved with the Videos. In my OPAC the location is given as MEDIA for all videos, kits, DVDs. Hope this helps. I think you are smart to do the new ones now and gradually you can add the others. We catalog our videos with a "VC" prefix then the Dewey number for non-fiction and "FIC" for fiction. Now that we are getting CDs, DVDs and other media, we are creating new prefixes. This way, we can keep the media types together and save space. I really question the 741 classification for the PBS math series as 741 is in the art section. I would think you would use something like VHS 51x Title, where x is a further refinement within mathematics and Title is the title of the specific video. In your "series" (MARC 440) field you could put Cyberchase and a volume number if there is one. I use my book collection as a key so that the non-book collection reflects its organizational patterns. The use of the "AV" prefix is not specific enough in today's world and may be a throwback to the 70's when it was a catchall for any non-book item. With our new automation systems, we may be more specific (CD, DVD, KIT, etc.) Hope this helps. Best wishes in your organizational efforts, have a great summer. PLEASE post a hit! I am very interesting in seeing what others do! We use VC as a prefix, but we also then put FIC (if it is a video on a book) or else the proper Dewey number for it, followed by the "author's" last 3 letters, just like with our books. I too am trying to assimilate our old with our new so I feel your pain! Good luck! We use Dewey numbers for our videos that are nonfiction. We also use a prefix of VC for video collection although we also have DVDs. This is how I was taught: The Prefix could be either AV or VC...depending what you prefer. Just make sure that you put it in a policy that way it will stay the same after you leave and the new librarian won't be left wondering what you did. As for the Dewey number you just assign it a dewey number on what the subject is. If it's a math one about numbers 513.2 and then the cutter on the first word (not article) of the title. IF it's a video on a book assign it like you would a book E for Easy or Everybody books and then cutter of the movie, or the author if it's based on a book. We catalog all of our DVDs and videos--and use either VID or DVD as the call number prefix, followed by the Dewey classification number and the first 3 letters of the title. I have used SUNLINK to find cataloging records for those AV materials that arrive uncataloged. We also catalog easies (call # prefix E) and fiction (call # prefix F). I think you'll be happier in the long run if they're cataloged according to Dewey. Disclaimer 1st: I have not taken cataloging & such. 2nd: in elementary, you are captain of your own ship, and can do whatever is helpful in your own library! My videos are carefully cataloged by dewey number for subject. Dinos in 567, Plants in 580, etc, etc. Every once in a while, if someone else is moving them, they want to put those things in Dewey order. But... honestly that's not how teachers USE them. So I quit lining them up in Dewey order, and put series together (Magic School Bus, Eyewitness). Teachers at each grade level know what they want to use, and they seem to like having the series together. In case you still need input here's my 2 cents. It is easier to find nonfiction if it is cataloged the same way you do your books. It's also easier to tell teachers--you have your books, now look at the number on the books and you can find corresponding videos. I worked at an elementary school with a similar problem. Took a long time but it made more sense to file them so anyone who knows anything about Dewey can locate them Sorry I am so late in replying. I am a church librarian, and I had the same dilemma when we first started buying videos. Finally I ended up with what I think you want to do. First line of call number is Video (or VHS), second line is Dewey number for non-fiction, and author or title for third line. You can usually find someone who "wrote" it or is responsible. That way, in checking the catalog, subject entries will list both book and video resources. I then arrange the nonfiction videos by Dewey number just like the books so they are easier to find. Hope this helps! We classify (and shelve) all videorecordings (VHS andDVD) as VI, then either F for fiction or a dewey number for information, and the dewey number relates to the subject of the video. The vast majority of my video collection of 1800 titles is in Dewey order. I put the video where it would go if it was a book, and since I have many more videos that are not stories, they go in the proper Dewey number. All of my collection starts with VID - so the video Bladerunner is VID Fic Bla, and , or VID 551.21 Eru for the video The Eruption of Mt. St. Helen's. I would do as you propose, to catalog anything new as you intend the finished catalog to look. Then weed your old videos, THEN catalog what's left. This is the voice of experience talking - I cataloged a huge section, then a year later weeded it and discared almost one third. Boy, did that hurt! Good luck with the project. I use the prefix VIDEO and then I use Dewey with first 3 letters of title. I'd probably do Cyberchase as VIDEO 610 CYB In my library I segregate feature videos from educational and documentary videos. Feature films all have the Dewey number 791.45 followed by the first three letters of the title and the date. I use VID for all video, DVD or tape, since I want them interfiled on the shelf. Thus the feature film "My Left Foot" has the call number VID 791.45 MY 1989. Documentary and educational videos use the same prefix the appropriate Dewey number for the subject of the film, the first three letters ot the title and the date. Thus the film "Teen Anger" has the call number VID 152.4 TEE 2004. I'm not sure I'd go with the number for the feature films if I were to do it again but I don't have time to change it right now! Hope this helps I assign a Dewey Number to my videos just like I would a book. This way all the math videos are together, etc. When the teachers go to get their video they may see others that they could be using and just never thought about. I would do it according to Dewey. Several years ago, I inherited a library video collection that was very "creatively organized". That's the nicest way I can put it. Anyway, I reorganized it according to Dewey and had a number of teachers tell me that they liked all the new videos I had purchased. I hadn't purchased a single one -- they were just organized so that topics were together and they could be more easily browsed. I have a about 1,000 videos in my collection. They are organized by Dewey number. In the database I have them listed as AV/Dewey #/VHS or DVD/first 3 letters of title excluding a, an, the. Uusing the AV designation in the first call number field forces my database to place all my videos in the same part of the list when doing a shelf list or inventory. It works pretty well for me, though using the VHS/DVD designation causes those items to be separated within the AV list. It would be easier in inventory if I went back and deleted that field since our VHS and DVD videos are interfiled on the shelf. Videos that are purely fiction are given a call # of AV/FIC/VHS or DVD/ and first 3 letters of title. Whenever possible, we catalog as much of our videos as non-fiction. We use Video, then the Dewey Decimal number, followed by the first three letters of the title. For example the "The Magic School Bus : Going Batty" is given Video 599.4 Mag Any fairy tales are 398.2, our Christmas Stories are 394.2663 and so forth. We do this to help our teachers connect these stories to the subjects they are teaching in the classroom. However we do keep a healthy Fiction section and keep titles that are entirely fiction there. Check out these websites to see how they catalog their video's. http://ksuc-agent.auto-graphics.com/agent/login.asp?cid=ksuc&lid=ksuc&mode=g http://www.mln.lib.ma.us/ http://sunlink.brodart.com/ I use a prefix of AV VC for video cassettes. I like your idea of VHS. I also use a Dewey number for nonfiction. I catalogued the animated hero series in history because that is how they are used. Yes, it is a cartoon version of Abraham Lincoln's life but the teacher uses it when doing a president's day unit and not as a cartoon to entertain the class. I have some fiction books from Wonderworks such as Anne of Green Gables. I class them as fiction. I haven't done this yet, but I'm considering one prefix for all my audio-visual materials regardless of the format. Perhaps MEDIA or AV. I currently use VC (video). DVD, KIT, etc. with the dewey number so I get all the media on the same topic together. I suggest you definetely use Dewey Numbers, but the prefix needs some consideration. I keep the my AV filed by the Dewey Number and with the different prefixes I use the teachers get confused. With just one prefix and the Dewey Numbers I shouldn't have confused patrons any longer. Food for thought. Whatever works for you and your staff. We do DDS # and title. Call # prefix is VID or AUD. Actual format shows up in the full record. -- Melissa Byrd, Librarian/Media Specialist Jacksboro Elementary Jacksboro, TN mbyrd3@gmail.com -------------------------------------------------------------------- Please note: All LM_NET postings are protected by copyright law. You can prevent most e-mail filters from deleting LM_NET postings by adding LM_NET@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU to your e-mail address book. To change your LM_NET status, e-mail to: listserv@listserv.syr.edu In the message write EITHER: 1) SIGNOFF LM_NET 2) SET LM_NET NOMAIL 3) SET LM_NET MAIL 4) SET LM_NET DIGEST * Allow for confirmation. * LM_NET Help & Information: http://www.eduref.org/lm_net/ * LM_NET Archive: http://www.eduref.org/lm_net/archive/ * EL-Announce with LM_NET Select: http://elann.biglist.com/sub/ * LM_NET Supporters: http://www.eduref.org/lm_net/ven.html --------------------------------------------------------------------