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I don't have an easy answer for that (I'm still very much processing this idea), but I'll try to respond. Right now, books on baseball are scattered all throughout the library. I know that my students are not savvy enough to find all of them on their own. When I observe them, I usually see them find one call number and grab it and then look around on that shelf a little. They are certainly not thinking: "hmmmm, maybe I should try checking the economics section to see if there are any books on the economics of baseball." They want it to be simple: all the baseball books are together. The library will have to make decisions about books with more than one subject--baseball and economics, in this example. I'm not sure how those decisions will get made, but they're already made by *someone*, so I don't think it's an impossible task. Sarah On 5/31/07, nkellner@charter.net <nkellner@charter.net> wrote: > Devil's advocate here: > > But what about poetry books about baseball? Fiction? Biographies? Easy > Readers? Does putting them all together make life easier for the patron or > harder? > > Just my 2 cents. > Nancy Kellner > Library Teacher > Peaslee School Library > Northborough, MA > > Original Message: > ----------------- > From: sarah sarah.ludwig@GMAIL.COM > Date: Thu, 31 May 2007 12:40:28 -0400 > To: LM_NET@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU > Subject: Re: Dewey Decimal System eliminated in new Arizona library. > > > I think I am in the minority. I love this idea and I've been trying to > think of a way to incorporate a similar system into my library. Sure, > there will be kinks to work out, but I don't think there is any real > need for the specificity that Dewey provides. Why not put all the > books on baseball in one place, no matter what the *specific* topic > (individual players vs. how-tos vs. the economics of the game, etc.), > and then arrange by author? Then let users tag the books for extra > access points. And have helpful librarians on hand to point users in > the right direction. It makes sense to me. > > On 5/31/07, Young, Jennifer <jyoung@norton.k12.ma.us> wrote: > > If you can count and know your ABCs, you can use a Dewey number to > > locate a book. The idea that Americans aren't smart enough to do this > > is troubling. We already have signs indicating general topics (and > > Dewey #s). I'm looking at 700 The Arts right now. Libraries can > > certainly update their signage to make it more appealing, and possibly > > more helpful, but the idea of throwing away one classification system > > and replacing it with a less precise system is ridiculous. > > > > Jennifer Young > > Library Media Specialist > > Norton High School > > 66 West Main Street > > Norton, MA 02766 > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: School Library Media & Network Communications > > [mailto:LM_NET@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU] On Behalf Of Shonda Brisco > > Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2007 11:21 AM > > To: LM_NET@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU > > Subject: Re: Dewey Decimal System eliminated in new Arizona library. > > > > The article suggests that this type of system (the DDC) is hard for > > someone to remember. Excuse me, but I've taught blind children how to > > write down a call number and locate a braille book on the shelves at a > > library serving blind and visually impaired children. At NO point did > > these children "remember" the call number but instead, learned how to > > locate information, take notes, and then physically locate the books > > based upon their location (address) on the shelves. > > > > The same is true with sighted (or any) children. We don't teach > > children to remember the DDC, we teach them to take notes, to use > > those notes (the call number) to physically locate the book on the > > shelves. If they recall specific areas or call numbers, it's > > generally because the SUBJECT is of interest to them and the areas > > (call numbers) are consistent, regardless of which library they use!! > > That's part of the beauty of the DDC or the LC--- the consistency of > > the location based upon the SAME information which is shared between > > libraries. (Try locating a book in Barnes & Noble, then in Borders, > > and then at "Ye Local Bookstore of Olde" ...good luck finding the same > > titles in the same "subject areas" based upon the WHIMS of those who > > are in charge of the bookstore!) > > > > I personally do not remember how to drive to San Antonio each time we > > have an ALA or TLA meeting there; however, I do have the skills > > necessary to locate the information, take notes, follow those > > instructions, and locate the meeting address. The beauty of this > > procedure....I always find the location based upon the consistency of > > the road map!! > > > > This is part of being information literate....and if we continue to > > spoon feed individuals (adults or otherwise) rather than require them > > to seek information in a manner that shows some information literacy / > > intellectual growth (or at least two grey cells rubbing together to > > spark an idea), then we are definitely leading the poor dumb > > sheep....off the cliff and into the abyss. > > > > Just another opinion.... > > > > ~Shonda > > > > On 5/30/07, Barbara Allen <BSAllen@aol.com> wrote: > > > > > > This may be of interest: > > > > > _http://www.azcentral.com/arizonarepublic/local/articles/0530nodewey0530 > > .html_ > > > > > (http://www.azcentral.com/arizonarepublic/local/articles/0530nodewey0530 > > .html) > > > OMG! > > > Barbara Allen > > > Technical Coordinator > > > Library Services > > > Tucson Unified School District > > > Tucson, AZ > > > > > > > > > > > > ************************************** See what's free at > > http://www.aol.com. > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > Please note: All LM_NET postings are protected by copyright law. > > > You can prevent most e-mail filters from deleting LM_NET postings > > > by adding LM_NET@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU to your e-mail address book. > > > To change your LM_NET status, e-mail to: listserv@listserv.syr.edu > > > In the message write EITHER: 1) SIGNOFF LM_NET 2) SET LM_NET NOMAIL > > > 3) SET LM_NET MAIL 4) SET LM_NET DIGEST * Allow for confirmation. > > > * LM_NET Help & Information: http://www.eduref.org/lm_net/ > > > * LM_NET Archive: http://www.eduref.org/lm_net/archive/ > > > * EL-Announce with LM_NET Select: http://elann.biglist.com/sub/ > > > * LM_NET Supporters: http://www.eduref.org/lm_net/ven.html > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > -- > > Shonda Brisco, MLIS > > Library Media / Technology Specialist > > Digital Bookends wiki / blog: > > http://digitalbookends.pbwiki.com > > http://shonda.edublogs.org/ > > sbrisco@gmail.com > > > > "Digital Resources" columnist > > School Library Journal > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Please note: All LM_NET postings are protected by copyright law. > > You can prevent most e-mail filters from deleting LM_NET postings > > by adding LM_NET@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU to your e-mail address book. > > To change your LM_NET status, e-mail to: listserv@listserv.syr.edu > > In the message write EITHER: 1) SIGNOFF LM_NET 2) SET LM_NET NOMAIL > > 3) SET LM_NET MAIL 4) SET LM_NET DIGEST * Allow for confirmation. > > * LM_NET Help & Information: http://www.eduref.org/lm_net/ > > * LM_NET Archive: http://www.eduref.org/lm_net/archive/ > > * EL-Announce with LM_NET Select: http://elann.biglist.com/sub/ > > * LM_NET Supporters: http://www.eduref.org/lm_net/ven.html > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Please note: All LM_NET postings are protected by copyright law. > > You can prevent most e-mail filters from deleting LM_NET postings > > by adding LM_NET@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU to your e-mail address book. > > To change your LM_NET status, e-mail to: listserv@listserv.syr.edu > > In the message write EITHER: 1) SIGNOFF LM_NET 2) SET LM_NET NOMAIL > > 3) SET LM_NET MAIL 4) SET LM_NET DIGEST * Allow for confirmation. > > * LM_NET Help & Information: http://www.eduref.org/lm_net/ > > * LM_NET Archive: http://www.eduref.org/lm_net/archive/ > > * EL-Announce with LM_NET Select: http://elann.biglist.com/sub/ > > * LM_NET Supporters: http://www.eduref.org/lm_net/ven.html > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > Please note: All LM_NET postings are protected by copyright law. > You can prevent most e-mail filters from deleting LM_NET postings > by adding LM_NET@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU to your e-mail address book. > To change your LM_NET status, e-mail to: listserv@listserv.syr.edu > In the message write EITHER: 1) SIGNOFF LM_NET 2) SET LM_NET NOMAIL > 3) SET LM_NET MAIL 4) SET LM_NET DIGEST * Allow for confirmation. > * LM_NET Help & Information: http://www.eduref.org/lm_net/ > * LM_NET Archive: http://www.eduref.org/lm_net/archive/ > * EL-Announce with LM_NET Select: http://elann.biglist.com/sub/ > * LM_NET Supporters: http://www.eduref.org/lm_net/ven.html > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > mail2web.com – Enhanced email for the mobile individual based on Microsoft(r) > Exchange - 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