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Thanks again to everyone who responded about using Destiny. Your comments are much appreciated and very helpful. I have shared them with the other librarians in our district, and they were thrilled to have some information ahead of our training, and also to know that we don't have to be so stressed about the change. I was asked to post a hit from several people. Thanks again! Vicki nelsonvl@ector-county.k12.tx.us **************************************************************************************** Don't worry everything will work out. We love Destiny. You are correct. When cataloging, the first thing you will do is to check to see if there is the book already exists in the database. If there is a copy in the District database, you will only be adding a copy. When you add the copy you will put in the barcode number, call number and any subject headings you want to add for your location. **************************************************************************************** If it is the first book in the District, you can import the information from a purchased record or search zSources for the MARC record. You really don't lose that much autonomy. You do want to keep things consistent throughout the district, and have a good full MARC record, but you can add different call numbers and additional subject headings. **************************************************************************************** We don't have central cataloging. We have 6 schools and we all do our own cataloging. Using the zSources to search for records for books that may have been donated or purchased from a book fair will yield good MARC records. *************************************************************************************** Do not stress. Destiny is wonderful. I am one of your trainers that will be in Odessa on the 6th and 7th of December. I am also the librarian at Lake View High School in San Angelo. We have used Destiny since January. You will be adding records using Z-sources which include Library of Congress, etc. And yes, the person that puts the first record in, is the record that will be used. But you will be putting in good records. This is something that I will show you during training. *************************************************************************************** Colton High has had Destiny for almost 3 yrs now, almost as long as I've been here, and apparently the 1-catloguer for a whole dist. must be an individual factor. Normally, we obtain cataloging data from the suppliers from whom we buy our books and upload the data. For the many donated books we receive as well as a current project cataloging VCRs for the Soc. Sci. Dept., I do all the original subject cataloging. As far as I know, none of my work goes anywhere except right here in CHS. *************************************************************************************** We made the switch from Circ+ to Destiny this year. All in all, it has been a good move. Yes, the first one to put the record for a book in sets it up for the entire district. This year the district hired one of the high school librarians to be, in effect, our district cataloger. She enters all the new books and downloads. The delay in getting new records entered is very slight - it usually gets done within a day or so. And, of course, if the record is already there, you can just enter a copy yourself. And it has been really great not having to worry about original cataloging. *************************************************************************************** Yes, it's true to some extent. We don't have a central cataloger and were told to use the record "with the schoolhouse" if the copies matched. I was the first one to be done cataloging my collection, so most other schools are using mine. You can still select a different record or edit it for your own school. *************************************************************************************** It is true that the first one adds the title for everyone. After the title is added, others just add copies. However, Destiny searches for reputable records from various sources. We have been using it a year and I have not hand cataloged anything. You scan in the ISBN and Destiny does the work of finding a record. It searches your database, then Follett's database, then others that you choose. When we have purchased records to import, Destiny can overwrite an existing record with a more complete one if you choose that option. I love the ease of cataloging in Destiny. ************************************************************************************** It probably depends how the administration of the system is set up. At my school, even though Destiny is for a district, we are only one school with two librarians that catalog, the elementary librarian and I. If she has cataloged a book that I also want to catalog, I can use her MARC record and just add a copy, or I can make an entirely different MARC record for my copy. Sometimes I make a second record because her record shows a book with an F classification while the same book at my level is JF. Or the same title might have a different publisher. I could also go in and change or 'improve' her record. A search will find all copies of a title. *************************************************************************************** We just switched to Destiny from Spectrum this year and we are finding cataloging much, much easier. You are right that the first person to add a new title to the catalog has to create a good record. What we've found, though, is that 99% of the titles we're adding are already in Destiny's Alliance+ records or are available from Library of Congress as a Z-Resource. All you do, then, is copy catalog and download a nice, clean, complete record. I've had to do very little original cataloging but even then, I think the template for that is pretty easy to use. **************************************************************************************** I think the biggest problem you're likely to have is cleaning up the old records already in your catalog. The quality of those can depend on the quality of the librarian who originally added them and we've found some very interesting variations in the records for the same title. It is possible to merge and purge duplicate records, keeping the best one, but it's something we do on the fly as it would be very time-intensive to do it for real. It is a little difficiult to get use to. It seems to run a bit slower with the checking in and out. I love the cataloging partI have 3 buildings so it is a smooth operation,because I can even work from home and catalog. (Not that I really want to) but the option is there. There are only 2 in our district, so you ever enters a title first, has sthe honors. We still can use whatever call number we see fit for our libraries. Most of the entries are on their default cataloging system so it is a matter or looking it over and changing what you would like. For us this is not really a problem. It has saved so much time and has helped in other ways such as running overdues, finding students bar code numbers etc. We were really skeptical at first but would hate to go back. Still working out a few bugs, such as starting a new school year and the students where not promoted to their new class, but they figured it out. Good luck and keep an opened mind. **************************************************************************************** Feel free to check out the information on our website for Destiny. My media specialists do not enter records directly into Destiny -- they load them or create them in MARC Magician -- then they load into Destiny Makes for a much cleaner catalog. You can twek the import features on how records load We do that at the district office. We also have stand templates for various materials -- I have not finished posting yet but feel free to look at these as well. http://www.dillon2.k12.sc.us/staff/cataloginglmc.asp http://www.dillon2.k12.sc.us/staff/MARCmagician.asp http://www.dillon2.k12.sc.us/staff/destiny.asp Vicki Nelson Librarian Odessa High School Ector County ISD -------------------------------------------------------------------- Please note: All LM_NET postings are protected by copyright law. 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