I definitely don't think it is appropriate to "look the other way" just because I
don't agree with a policy. As someone else mentioned, how can we as librarians be
adamant about things like copyright and then not enforce school policy? That said,
I can't really say that I am against this policy. Sure, there are some good uses
for social networking, and when we want to make use of that tool, it's a simple
thing to tell the tech people that we need the filter dropped from a particular
site. But trying to keep kids on educational tasks when they want to be
continuously checking MySpace is a waste of my time. They can check MySpace
somewhere else. I really don't think it hurts their educational development to be
denied this at school. As for going around the filter with a proxy site, we have
had plenty of issues in the past with students going to inappropriate sites, so our
technology department has cracked down. This doesn't bother me a bit. Since the
crack down, I haven't, for example, had a problem with unsavory things coming off
our printers. I haven't had students wasting time chatting. I haven't seen any
girls get into fights over postings on their personal pages. The filters, after
all, are not just to keep kids off from MySpace. And I'm not sure I agree that
MySpace isn't hurting anyone. Used excessivley in a school setting, I think it does.
Marsha ReddLibrarian, Kelloggsville High School Grand Rapids, MI
marsharedd@hotmail.comEducation is not a goal; it is a life-long process. Everyone
is a student. Everyone is a teacher.
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> Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 15:26:55 -0700
> From: bmosbacher@HELLGATE.K12.MT.US
> Subject: Re: [LM_NET] Website that lets kids access myspace, etc.
> To: LM_NET@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU
>
> There are some school policies that I think are silly, but if they are
> policies, I feel it is my responsibility to enforce them. The teachers
> who aren't team players make it more difficult for everyone else. There
> have been policies in the past that our entire team has examined and
> changed (example: gum chewing).
>
> Becky Mosbacher
> Teacher/Librarian
> Hellgate Middle School
> 2385 Flynn Lane
> Missoula, MT 59808
> bmosbacher@hellgate.k12.mt.us
> 406-721-2452
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: School Library Media & Network Communications
> [mailto:LM_NET@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU] On Behalf Of sarah
> Sent: Friday, November 30, 2007 3:22 PM
> To: LM_NET@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU
> Subject: Re: [LM_NET] Website that lets kids access myspace, etc.
>
>
> Well, I know it sounds inflammatory, and I don't mean it this way, but
> yes, I think it's okay to hack around the policies. The policies are
> wrong. Myspace isn't hurting anyone like speeding or copyright
> infringement are. And there are a million good uses for social networks.
> I'd definitely look the other way. I say this as someone who doesn't
> have to deal with filtering, and hearing about stuff like this makes me
> very glad I'm not in that kind of situation.
>
> Sarah
>
> On Nov 30, 2007 4:50 PM, Paula Yohe wrote:
>
>> I think the two weeks is silly but am I correct that
>> you are implying that it is ok to try to hack around
>> to bypass district policies
>>
>> Now I am not saying that district policy is right or
>> wrong -- but I guess my question would be -- is that a
>> good thing to do?
>>
>> It is kind of like saying I think copyright is foolish
>> and I am not going to obey it
>> or that the speed limit is 70 and I think it should be
>> 100 so I am going to go 100?
>> or that I think school should start at 9:00 so I am
>> not coming till 9:00
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --- sarah wrote:
>>
>>> What a counterintuitive punishment..and for
>>> something that they shouldn't be
>>> punished for. It sure makes it hard for librarians
>>> to do their jobs well.
>>> How frustrating.
>>>
>>> Sarah Ludwig
>>> Director of Library Services
>>> Wilbraham & Monson Academy
>>> Wilbraham, MA
>>>
>>> On Nov 30, 2007 12:22 PM, Marsha Redd
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> In my district, if a kid even searches for a proxy
>>> website, he can have
>>>> his computer access denied for 2 weeks.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Marsha ReddLibrarian, Kelloggsville High School
>>> Grand Rapids, MI
>>>> marsharedd@hotmail.comEducation is not a goal; it
>>> is a life-long process.
>>>> Everyone is a student. Everyone is a teacher.
>>>>
>>>> ----------------------------------------
>>>>> Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 21:47:41 -0500
>>>>> From: sarah.ludwig@GMAIL.COM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [LM_NET] Website that lets kids
>>> access myspace, etc.
>>>>> To: LM_NET@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU
>>>>>
>>>>> Jeez, wouldn't it just be easier to let them use
>>> it?
>>>>>
>>>>> Sarah Ludwig
>>>>> Director of Library Services
>>>>> Wilbraham & Monson Academy
>>>>> Wilbraham, MA
>>>>>
>>>>> On Nov 29, 2007 9:22 PM, Lee Gordon wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> There are MANY websites that give access to
>>> Myspace--or any other
>>>> website
>>>>>> that may be filtered by your district filters.
>>> Just google "bypass
>>>> proxy"
>>>>>> and see what comes up. As soon as we find one,
>>> our techies block it,
>>>> but
>>>>>> tomorrow there is a new one.
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> ****************
>>>>>> Lee D. Gordon
>>>>>> Project Facilitator, K-12 Library Services
>>>>>> Clark County School District
>>>>>> 3950 S. Pecos-McLeod
>>>>>> Las Vegas, NV 89121
>>>>>> Lee_Gordon@interact.ccsd.net
>>>>>> or lgordon24@cox.net
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ---- Paula Yohe wrote:
>>>>>>> I love it when I find ways kids try to beat
>>> the
>>>>>>> system.. all part of being a kid
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I knew our darlings were getting to myspace
>>> but
>>>>>>> couldn't figure out how --
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> one made a mistake today -- so I thought I
>>> would share
>>>>>>> this with all of you.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Unprotected.org -- click on Personal Hygiene
>>> Products
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I must say -- what creativity..
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If any of you are Lightspeed users -- it will
>>> be
>>>>>>> blocked by tomorrow -- it will be in the
>>> nightly
>>>>>>> update..
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This sort of made my day....
>>>>>>> gave me some humor --
>>>>>>> to be that age again and have that much free
>>> time --
>>>>>>> soumds like a dream come true...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Enjoy..
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Paula Yohe
>>>>>>> Director Of Technology/Library Media Center
>>>>>>> Dillon School District Two
>>>>>>> 405 West Washington Street
>>>>>>> Dillon, SC 29536
>>>>>>> Phone: 843-841-3604 Fax:843-774-1214 paula_yohe@yahoo.com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
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