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Hi everyone, Last week I requested info on digital cameras. I thank all of you who responded. A lot of you suggested the Flip camera or the RCA Small Wonder. These are great for small resolution type projects but I wanted something with a lot higher resolution and features. Below are the suggestions I had for those along with the camcorder I ended up decided between. -We use digital cameras extensively here that have both video and still photo capability. A brand we like is Aiptek but my Follett rep just showed me one last week that I liked even more. Of course, I can't remember the name of the brand now but it was a simplified version that operated like a flip phone - great even for the younger grades. Our Aipteks cost about $150 and the version I saw last week was a little bit more, around $175, but that allowed rechargeable batteries to be used. Whatever you decide to do, make sure that you do get a version that allows for rechargeable batteries because these devices eat a lot juice! -I like those little Sony camcorders because of the superior lens. I've got a couple here at school, and I bought one for home. We've got Macs at home, and the camera just plugs right into the computer via Firewire. Downloading is simple, as is editing. We then burn the finished product to a DVD. Here at school I have proper editing equipment, so I can do much more. I think the newest version burns directly to a mini-DVD. -I have two Canon DV digital camcorders. They work great. Cost around $150-200. -I didn't see your original post but I do have to say that if you have Moviemaker or iMovie or some other editing software already, don't let the software that comes from the camera deter you. I got a hard drive camcorder last year and even though the files are .mod files, I can just rename them .avi and use this software to edit. I never use the editing software that comes with the camera. The nice part about the hard drive camera is that I don't' have to worry about the tapes or disks getting messed up or scratched and kids loosing what they taped. The disks are nicer than the tapes if you get one that records to RAM disks because then you can erase and reuse them. But the downfall is that you don't know if there is a bad spot until it is too late. To make a long and rambling email short... Since most computers now have some sort of video editing software already on them, you aren't limited to what comes with the camera. -Don't get Canon ZR 800. It's a nice little camera for basic video production students, but it's not advanced enough for what you want. I personally have a Panasonic with the 3CCD (don't have model # here at school), and I really like the resolution. Beach Camera sells them for about $430, I believe (beachcamera.com). I'm not sure what the "miking" capabilities on are. I just use it for home b-day parties and things. One of my production students tried it for a day, liked it, and ordered one. Be sure that whatever you order matches the computers to which you'll be uploading and editing. Our new school cameras have Firewire connectors, but the computers have USB, so we have to buy and install PCI cards at $30 a pop. -I have really come to like the JVC's. They have microphone jacks, which are really hard to find. I used a couple of Sony's but they lasted just over the year warranty while the JVC's have lasted much (years) longer. There are some in our district who use Sony's but I have not had their luck with them. I have a junior high video club so they get pretty heavy (and not always the most careful) use. -I would recommend JVC but not the hard drive kind ----I like Sony - but then you can only purchase Sony accessories from the Sony website and it gets kind of spendy. Sony cameras only take "SONY" brand items - and it's a pain when you are looking for a battery or lens, etc. and have to order it all online. Just my experience. Good luck! -Yes, we have a nice Panasonic hybrid camcorder. Taking the files into movie maker won't work. Transferring them into Pinnacle in AVI format is time consuming but works.....and is not user friendly. I haven't conquered the issue so it works comfortably yet. But the MAC's may be easier. If you just want to throw what you recorded onto a DVD, it is a snap. The DVD recorders have little 30 min DVD's that have to be 'closed' after 1/2 hour .....they are also expensive. I don't know what type of file extensions they have. But video editing is a hassle on a pc no matter how you do it. Our school got supposedly top of the line Pinnacle.....we were putting files in from a prior made DVD and it couldn't read it off the computer's DVD, so we had to drag a TV type one over, plug it into the computer and then pinnacle accepted it. Nothing is in sync between various hardware/software with a pc. My next computer will be a mac. My Picks after researching were: Canon Vixia 3.3 HIgh Definition Digital 60 GB Hard Drive model HG20 (too expensive for me at $900) Panasonic 2.1MP High Definition Digital 60GB Hard Drive model HDC-HS9, cost between $500-$600 Sony-Handycam Camcorder 60GB Hard Drive model DCR-SR86, cost $529.99 I ended up writing the grant for the Sony Handycam after reading several reviews and talking with sales people who sell all of the above items. I actually talked with the Sony rep (the one who sells to the product to the businesses) to find out the specifics. The issue of downloading and editing the video onto the computer seem to be great for the Sony if you have a pc and not a MAC. There seems to be some issues now with Sony working easily on the MAC side. The extras that I also put in the grant were additional longer life batteries and a wall charger for the batteries. The recording time of the batteries that comes with the camera are only about an hour so I bought batteries that would last up to 3 hours. That way if I need to record a presentation I would have enough juice! Again, thanks for all your input and I hope this helps someone else! It definitely wasn't easy to sift through all the info (or lack of it) out there and pick the best suited camcorder for my needs. I stumped even some of the sales personnel with some of my questions! Tammy L. 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