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Thank you to all the replies. I waited a couple of days to make sure I had them all. Here is my original post, followed by the suggestions. I am looking for books that are good for literature circles for grades 4 and 5. I would like books that are challenging that students can really do some critical and creative thinking about. I would like to find some that are already used that may have some "guides" produced for the comprehension side. These are going to be used for the gifted program, so most of these students are above grade level in reading. Thank you in advance for any ideas you can give me. They all sound like great books, but some are recommended for older readers. I think I will try and find them all so the kids have a choice. Here are the suggestions: Hattie Big Sky by Kirby Larson Jeremy Fink and the Meaning of Life by Wendy Mass The Outcasts of 19 Schuyler Place by E.L. Konigsburg Al Capone Does My Shirts by Gennifer Choldenko Lizzie Bright and the Buckminster Boy Atherton: The House of Power, by Patrick Carman Fever Among the Hidden Ice Drift The Art of Keeping Cool Pictures of Hollis Woods Kensuke's Kingdom Trapped in Death Cave Frindle The Gypsy Game City of Ember Cryptid Hunters by Roland Smith Fish by L. S. Mathews Since they are above their age level in reading, how about the Percy Jackson series that starts with The Lightning Thief? I used this with Freshmen in a National Board Entry. Lots of YA novels are dealing with Greek Mythology. It's just a thought, and the kids loved Percy. Visit Rick Riordin's homepage for a guide and more info. THE FLUNKING OF JOSHUA T.BATES by Susan Shreve. Josh fails grade 3 and is torn between old friends and new classmates. He deals with the fact that his life has changed more then he could imagine.Josh has many conflicts about his new life,so the book is not just a story,but a diary,of a sort,as well. Also a good read a- loud. Maddie Wood Teacher Librarian Schmitt Elementary Denver, CO mediamaddie@comcast.net -------------------------------------------------------------------- Please note: All LM_NET postings are protected by copyright law. You can prevent most e-mail filters from deleting LM_NET postings by adding LM_NET@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU to your e-mail address book. To change your LM_NET status, e-mail to: listserv@listserv.syr.edu In the message write EITHER: 1) SIGNOFF LM_NET 2) SET LM_NET NOMAIL 3) SET LM_NET MAIL 4) SET LM_NET DIGEST * Allow for confirmation. * LM_NET Help & Information: http://www.eduref.org/lm_net/ * LM_NET Archive: http://www.eduref.org/lm_net/archive/ * EL-Announce with LM_NET Select: http://lm-net.info/ * LM_NET Supporters: http://www.eduref.org/lm_net/ven.html * LM_NET Wiki: http://lmnet.wikispaces.com/ --------------------------------------------------------------------