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I know we will never solve this but I really question how much this gets kids talking about and writing about books and how it encourages them to go forward. Remember this AR test is multiple choice facts and that the more small books a child reads the more points. You don't want to take a couple of weeks to read a longer book when you could read several shorter books in the same time period. Kids figure this out fast.Case in point: My grandaughter is a great reader but she would opt for the smaller books at her level so she could get to her goal. As for talking about books, here's another personal experience. My grandson who is not all that crazy about reading was complaining that he hadn't done well on an AR test. I asked him what the book was about and he spent ten minutes telling me the story and explaining about the characters and motivations and all the stuff that we want kids to get out of a book. When I asked about how he knew so much about the book and still didn't get a good grade on the test, he said they didn't ask me any of that. And we won't even get into the "you can't read that because it's not your level, we don't have the test etc" mess. Heaven help me if I could only read books written at the college level! As with everything else one size really doesn't fit all and points don't necessarily mean comprehension or enjoyment Just my two cents worth Darlene Yasick Librarian Retired lib027yas@sbcglobal.net --- On Sat, 8/29/09, Mitchell, Lynette <MitchellL@CITRUS.K12.FL.US> wrote: From: Mitchell, Lynette <MitchellL@CITRUS.K12.FL.US> Subject: [LM_NET] GEN: AR To: LM_NET@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU Date: Saturday, August 29, 2009, 12:32 PM When I first got to my high school they had an AR Section...which were the only short shelves we had for display. So when new books came in they were displayed on top of the AR books. A couple of weeks after I got there, the other media specialist and I were discussing our philosophies etc. and I told her that although I didn't expect her to change it, but I was adamantly opposed to having a section just for AR books. I knew I would have to live with it because she was the reining LMS. I swear, just then a young man came in for an AR book and got very excited about a book he saw on the top of the shelf. She went up to him and told him they were the new books and not AR. He got very discouraged, put the book back and started to walk out without ANY book. I called after him and told him he could still check that book out but should pick out an AR book for his assignment. I turned to her and said...that just made my point! Kids see a separate section and that tells them, THIS IS THE ONLY PLACE YOU CAN GET BOOKS! That very moment she started plans to integrate the collection and soon after our school discontinued the use of AR altogether. lm Lynette Mitchell Technology & Library Media Specialist Crystal River High School Crystal River, Florida 34428 mitchelll@citrus.k12.fl.us -------------------------------------------------------------------- Please note: All LM_NET postings are protected by copyright law. You can prevent most e-mail filters from deleting LM_NET postings by adding LM_NET@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU to your e-mail address book. To change your LM_NET status, you send a message to: listserv@listserv.syr.edu In the message write EITHER: 1) SIGNOFF LM_NET 2) SET LM_NET NOMAIL 3) SET LM_NET MAIL 4) SET LM_NET DIGEST * LM_NET Help & Information: http://lmnet.wordpress.com/ * LM_NET Archive: http://www.eduref.org/lm_net/archive/ * EL-Announce with LM_NET Select: http://lm-net.info/join.html * LM_NET Supporters: http://lmnet.wordpress.com/category/links/el-announce/ -------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Please note: All LM_NET postings are protected by copyright law. You can prevent most e-mail filters from deleting LM_NET postings by adding LM_NET@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU to your e-mail address book. To change your LM_NET status, you send a message to: listserv@listserv.syr.edu In the message write EITHER: 1) SIGNOFF LM_NET 2) SET LM_NET NOMAIL 3) SET LM_NET MAIL 4) SET LM_NET DIGEST * LM_NET Help & Information: http://lmnet.wordpress.com/ * LM_NET Archive: http://www.eduref.org/lm_net/archive/ * EL-Announce with LM_NET Select: http://lm-net.info/join.html * LM_NET Supporters: http://lmnet.wordpress.com/category/links/el-announce/ --------------------------------------------------------------------