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Dear Ed I would be taking this with a grain of salt until some of the 'facts' stated were supported by reliable, responsible and unbiased research. The first things that I would like to have clarified are Ms Brody's credentials -is she a recognised international expert in child development - and the validity of her statements such as " toilet training and vocabulary development are closely associated". What is the evidence for this and just what are the connections? After 36+ years in early childhood, I have known many kids who are articulate and literate and it was more to do with their experiences with language and literature than the age they were toilet-trained. And in all the reams and reams of reading I have done about early reading behaviours, this is the very first time I have read of this connection. (That doesn't mean it doesn't exist but Ms Brody needed to state her sources for her claims.) The next thing I would be looking at are the trends in child-rearing at the time - in the late 50s babies were fed according to a clock not their needs and having a baby out of diapers early, whether they were physically able to control their sphincter muscles or not, was a badge of honour. Today there is a totally different school of thought to then, and even to the 70s when I was toilet-training my child. And what is 'acceptable' in the US or Australia is quite different in other countries so is this an intellectual or cultural connection? Thirdly, I would be looking for bias and prejudice and whether there is a very long bow being drawn here to try to add some sort of academic weight to an argument for long-term, government-funded maternity leave. Australia has just this year announced that there will be some sort of scheme here to support new mums beyond the six weeks that most have access to, and I thought we had been subjected to every argument for and against but this link that suggests mums have to be stay-at-home in order to toilet train their kids so they won't require remedial reading later is a new one. Without going into the fact that little ones are not physically mature enough to control their bladders or bowels in the timeframe that most countries support paid maternity leave, or that this might be just another level of emotional guilt about wanting/having to work outside the home being put on new mums, if we look at the Bell Curve we will see that there are always going to be about 16% of children who are going to need some sort of support with their literacy development and 2% of these will need long-term support. In a class of 30 kids, that's 5 needing some support and 1 needing long-term support. Conversely, all other things being equal, you will have 5 at the gifted end of the spectrum. Rather than spending money on trying to prove that long-term paid maternity leave will enable children to be toilet-trained earlier so they will encounter fewer problems with literacy later, perhaps that money would be better spent helping all new mums understand the connection between exposing their children to language and literature and their literacy development and then providing the means for them to do this through some of the excellent early-childhood programs that have been proven to work. If I were in charge of the purse, I'd be making Mem Fox's book "Reading Magic" compulsory reading as part of the ante-natal preparation and, Marie Clay's (the founder of Reading Recovery) "Reading, the Patterning of Complex Behaviour" compulsory for all educators. Barbara Barbara Braxton Teacher Librarian COOMA NSW 2630 AUSTRALIA E. barbara.288@bigpond.com Together we learn from each other -------------------------------------------------------------------- Please note: All LM_NET postings are protected by copyright law. You can prevent most e-mail filters from deleting LM_NET postings by adding LM_NET@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU to your e-mail address book. To change your LM_NET status, you send a message to: listserv@listserv.syr.edu In the message write EITHER: 1) SIGNOFF LM_NET 2) SET LM_NET NOMAIL 3) SET LM_NET MAIL 4) SET LM_NET DIGEST * LM_NET Help & Information: http://lmnet.wordpress.com/ * LM_NET Archive: http://www.eduref.org/lm_net/archive/ * EL-Announce with LM_NET Select: http://lm-net.info/join.html * LM_NET Supporters: http://lmnet.wordpress.com/category/links/el-announce/ --------------------------------------------------------------------